Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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Damocles said:
Just glancing at the site and thought I'd come out of retirement to show you this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/the-201112-update-to-the-all-time-best-managers-versus-the-mxir-model/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/t ... xir-model/</a>

People actually do bother researching these things, and on the basis of money spent:points earned when equalised for inflation, Mancini is the third best manager in Premier League history. Funnily enough, above Mourinho.

Those stats only contribute data from last season so with this season's performance I imagine that he's slipped to fourth but just thought I'd log in and counter a badly made point.

Off I go back into the ether...
Always good to see you back Damo but some of us have never argued against the fact that he's been very successful domestically with 3rd, 2nd (hopefully) and 1st places finishes in his three full seasons plus an FA Cup and another in prospect. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

The problem is that he just hasn't done it in Europe and the project is very dependent on that.
 
sjk2008 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
strongbowholic said:
Hahahaa!!

He is Mancini
From Italy
And he can't help but
Win us trophies
He must do better
In the Champions League
But apart from that
He'll do for me!

Not bad fella. Not bad.

To the tune of the CArlos TEvez Hermann Munster song

He came to us from Italy, Bobby, Bobby
No English but a good CV, Bobby, Bobby
He spent a load to win the cup
The champions league he fucked right up
Bob Mancini, not good enough for me

I'm bored, so I'm joining in (only for a laugh before anyone takes it seriously)

He bought Mario to play up front, Bobby, Bobby
But he spent more time fighting the ****, Bobby, Bobby
Then there was Dzeko to head in some pingers,
though Bobby decided to play with no wingers,
Bob Mancini, questionable tactics galore!
Ganging up on us with the FYC eh?! :))

He took us on from Clueless Hughes, Bobby, Bobby
He made us into mighty Blues, Bobby, Bobby
We've scored loads of goals and kept clean sheets
When it comes to rhymes, I'm no John Keats
Bob Mancini, I guess that's his fault too
 
I think we should get our respective coats, strongbow, lad. I can hear the barrel being scraped.

I remember the FYC, too ;-)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Damocles said:
Just glancing at the site and thought I'd come out of retirement to show you this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/the-201112-update-to-the-all-time-best-managers-versus-the-mxir-model/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/t ... xir-model/</a>

People actually do bother researching these things, and on the basis of money spent:points earned when equalised for inflation, Mancini is the third best manager in Premier League history. Funnily enough, above Mourinho.

Those stats only contribute data from last season so with this season's performance I imagine that he's slipped to fourth but just thought I'd log in and counter a badly made point.

Off I go back into the ether...
Always good to see you back Damo but some of us have never argued against the fact that he's been very successful domestically with 3rd, 2nd (hopefully) and 1st places finishes in his three full seasons plus an FA Cup and another in prospect. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

The problem is that he just hasn't done it in Europe and the project is very dependent on that.
Of course it is, but immediately? Mid term? Long term? I'd imagine they are not stupid enough to think "throw dough at it and we win it in season one". As has been said time and time again, money is a huge, huge help but does not guarantee success.

I reckon he gets one more season and if he fails in Europe again, he'll be gone.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Damocles said:
Just glancing at the site and thought I'd come out of retirement to show you this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/the-201112-update-to-the-all-time-best-managers-versus-the-mxir-model/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/t ... xir-model/</a>

People actually do bother researching these things, and on the basis of money spent:points earned when equalised for inflation, Mancini is the third best manager in Premier League history. Funnily enough, above Mourinho.

Those stats only contribute data from last season so with this season's performance I imagine that he's slipped to fourth but just thought I'd log in and counter a badly made point.

Off I go back into the ether...
Always good to see you back Damo but some of us have never argued against the fact that he's been very successful domestically with 3rd, 2nd (hopefully) and 1st places finishes in his three full seasons plus an FA Cup and another in prospect. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

The problem is that he just hasn't done it in Europe and the project is very dependent on that.

just looked at that chart, Frank Clark 9th best manager in PL history, here i am taking the piss out of stats, hey my hands are up
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Vinny has been told of the immediate future, he likes it, he likes it a fucking lot....
I have been unable to find this quote - these are the RMC interview highlights, perhaps the comment was made in a fuller version available somewhere else? I'd appreciate a link if so.

Vincent Kompany Interview - 22/04/2013 by Hamza.B

Today the captain Vincent Kompany was invited by Luis Fernandez on RMC, an interview spot for the "tower europe captains" where they could talk about Manchester City and Belgian selection, here are the highlights.

Samir Nasri: "What we feel in the group, this is not what is written in the newspapers. When Samir is shaped, it has a significant impact on team performance. It is important for us. Next season and is prepared if he can get this level of performance, there will be an exceptional player and more. When he is at Manchester City, it is very serene and quiet. Like everyone else, he has good and bad days. Does the job for the team. I do not know if he thinks the team of France. All I can say is that following the results of the Blues. "

Vincent has analyzed the following season City: "From a historical perspective finish 2nd is a great result, but we are not the same club now. When you taste the success you want to relive again but we could not do it and it's disappointing but there's four other teams who want such, we should have done better. We must win the FA Cup to give a better face to our season if we win it will be "good" but not enough since we failed in Europe. "

About his future and the future of the club: "I think winning the Champions League is inevitable for City, we work for it, so the club is progressing behind the scenes and it also comes on the field. I recently extended for six years and you know that there's projects at the turn of the City Academy and all the facilities you will not be asking me this question (he was asked whether he saw his future City or elsewhere, Ed) I have the opportunity to win trophies and I want to do in City. "

He concluded by referring to the Belgian selection: "It has huge potential. Before, the level was better in clubs that selection. Today, it begins to balance and it gets interesting. The most exciting is that we have plenty of players like Hazard which is huge room for improvement. Eden is already accomplishing things unparalleled in England. It's exciting for us. Everything seems to go in the right direction. The World Cup is a must for our generation. The great strength of our team is the solidarity and friendship, this is the perfect group. The secret of Belgium, it is. It is a welded super group in harmony with the fans. "
<a class="postlink" href="http://mancity.fr/breve-2601-vincent-kompany-se-livre-sur-rmc-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://mancity.fr/breve-2601-vincent-ko ... -rmc-.html</a>
 
strongbowholic said:
sjk2008 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Not bad fella. Not bad.

To the tune of the CArlos TEvez Hermann Munster song

He came to us from Italy, Bobby, Bobby
No English but a good CV, Bobby, Bobby
He spent a load to win the cup
The champions league he fucked right up
Bob Mancini, not good enough for me

I'm bored, so I'm joining in (only for a laugh before anyone takes it seriously)

He bought Mario to play up front, Bobby, Bobby
But he spent more time fighting the ****, Bobby, Bobby
Then there was Dzeko to head in some pingers,
though Bobby decided to play with no wingers,
Bob Mancini, questionable tactics galore!
Ganging up on us with the FYC eh?! :))

He took us on from Clueless Hughes, Bobby, Bobby
He made us into mighty Blues, Bobby, Bobby
We've scored loads of goals and kept clean sheets
When it comes to rhymes, I'm no John Keats
Bob Mancini, I guess that's his fault too

Haha, who's the FYC?

He won the league in the last second, Bobby, Bobby
He’ll go onto conquer Europe they reckoned, Bobby, Bobby
Instead he failed and came bottom of a group,
below a team that cost less than a Minestrone soup,
Bob Mancini, this iz eemportant!
 
bluemc1 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Damocles said:
Just glancing at the site and thought I'd come out of retirement to show you this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/the-201112-update-to-the-all-time-best-managers-versus-the-mxir-model/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/t ... xir-model/</a>

People actually do bother researching these things, and on the basis of money spent:points earned when equalised for inflation, Mancini is the third best manager in Premier League history. Funnily enough, above Mourinho.

Those stats only contribute data from last season so with this season's performance I imagine that he's slipped to fourth but just thought I'd log in and counter a badly made point.

Off I go back into the ether...
Always good to see you back Damo but some of us have never argued against the fact that he's been very successful domestically with 3rd, 2nd (hopefully) and 1st places finishes in his three full seasons plus an FA Cup and another in prospect. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

The problem is that he just hasn't done it in Europe and the project is very dependent on that.

just looked at that chart, Frank Clark 9th best manager in PL history, here i am taking the piss out of stats, hey my hands are up
Frank Clark was arguably our worst ever manager but he did well at Forest for a while after he replaced Clough. The stats confirm that.
 
George Hannah said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Vinny has been told of the immediate future, he likes it, he likes it a fucking lot....
I have been unable to find this quote - these are the RMC interview highlights, perhaps the comment was made in a fuller version available somewhere else? I'd appreciate a link if so.

Vincent Kompany Interview - 22/04/2013 by Hamza.B

Today the captain Vincent Kompany was invited by Luis Fernandez on RMC, an interview spot for the "tower europe captains" where they could talk about Manchester City and Belgian selection, here are the highlights.

Samir Nasri: "What we feel in the group, this is not what is written in the newspapers. When Samir is shaped, it has a significant impact on team performance. It is important for us. Next season and is prepared if he can get this level of performance, there will be an exceptional player and more. When he is at Manchester City, it is very serene and quiet. Like everyone else, he has good and bad days. Does the job for the team. I do not know if he thinks the team of France. All I can say is that following the results of the Blues. "

Vincent has analyzed the following season City: "From a historical perspective finish 2nd is a great result, but we are not the same club now. When you taste the success you want to relive again but we could not do it and it's disappointing but there's four other teams who want such, we should have done better. We must win the FA Cup to give a better face to our season if we win it will be "good" but not enough since we failed in Europe. "

About his future and the future of the club: "I think winning the Champions League is inevitable for City, we work for it, so the club is progressing behind the scenes and it also comes on the field. I recently extended for six years and you know that there's projects at the turn of the City Academy and all the facilities you will not be asking me this question (he was asked whether he saw his future City or elsewhere, Ed) I have the opportunity to win trophies and I want to do in City. "

He concluded by referring to the Belgian selection: "It has huge potential. Before, the level was better in clubs that selection. Today, it begins to balance and it gets interesting. The most exciting is that we have plenty of players like Hazard which is huge room for improvement. Eden is already accomplishing things unparalleled in England. It's exciting for us. Everything seems to go in the right direction. The World Cup is a must for our generation. The great strength of our team is the solidarity and friendship, this is the perfect group. The secret of Belgium, it is. It is a welded super group in harmony with the fans. "
<a class="postlink" href="http://mancity.fr/breve-2601-vincent-kompany-se-livre-sur-rmc-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://mancity.fr/breve-2601-vincent-ko ... -rmc-.html</a>

That's not it.

He was asked about joining Barca and tweeted something like (but not exactly) "If you knew what City were planning you wouldnt ask such a question". REgardless of the accuracy, it was a comment which could be read many ways of course.
 
bluemc1 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Damocles said:
Just glancing at the site and thought I'd come out of retirement to show you this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/the-201112-update-to-the-all-time-best-managers-versus-the-mxir-model/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/07/t ... xir-model/</a>

People actually do bother researching these things, and on the basis of money spent:points earned when equalised for inflation, Mancini is the third best manager in Premier League history. Funnily enough, above Mourinho.

Those stats only contribute data from last season so with this season's performance I imagine that he's slipped to fourth but just thought I'd log in and counter a badly made point.

Off I go back into the ether...
Always good to see you back Damo but some of us have never argued against the fact that he's been very successful domestically with 3rd, 2nd (hopefully) and 1st places finishes in his three full seasons plus an FA Cup and another in prospect. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

The problem is that he just hasn't done it in Europe and the project is very dependent on that.

just looked at that chart, Frank Clark 9th best manager in PL history, here i am taking the piss out of stats, hey my hands are up

Haha

I ignored the document original, on the basis of my original point which was the stats can be used to say anything you want.

But I just had a look and saw Phil Neil is the 24th most successful manager in premier league history, Frank Clark 9th, Benitez 5th, Sven 11th and Vialli 6th. Stuart Pearce and Alan Ball are both 30 places ahead of Roberto MArtinez, too.

What a great set of statistics they are. Welcome back Damocles.
 
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