He didn't spend 300 million though did he and at least he won a european trophy in the first 5 years of his reign while we've been knocked out with a wimper every european campaign since Mancini took over.Caveman said:Schmeichel Irwin Neville Ince Keane Scholes Kanchelskis Giggs Hughes Cantona Beckham all played for United over those five years.greasedupdeafguy said:Did he have the squad which Mancini has, it is fucking embarrassing that we have not won a single group game.Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.
Blue Haze said:There's a difference between wanting his sacking and feeling it's inevitable.
NipHolmes said:Danielmanc said:WayneBridge said:OptaFranz @OptaFranz
1 - Manchester City is the first English team not to win a single game in the Champions League group phase. Historic.
FACT - Man City are the champions of England
Great stat to be fair. Losing to Real and Dortmund isn't a hard pill to swallow, not beating Ajax was though.
Which tells you Champions Lg success isn't necessarily down to being a great manager, not getting CL success isn't down to being not a good enough manager neither.Mancio said:cookster said:Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.
Have a look at Mourinho's, Klopp and Pep's
and Di Matteo's
cookster said:Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.cookster said:5 Champ League campaigns, 1 QTR Final with Inter.
Just a thought....
Have a look at Mourinho's, Klopp and Pep's
Napoli were in the same bloody group as us! and I honestly couldn't see us qualifying from any group tbh we are just truly awful in europe.grim up north said:NipHolmes said:Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.
Why not talk about how Malaga, PSG, Napoli (on top of my head) have all qualified in first time of asking. Napoli in particular have 2 players that could get in our team yet we got 1 point from 2 legs from them.
Would they have qualified from our group this season, would we qualify from theirs
grim up north said:NipHolmes said:Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.
Why not talk about how Malaga, PSG, Napoli (on top of my head) have all qualified in first time of asking. Napoli in particular have 2 players that could get in our team yet we got 1 point from 2 legs from them.
Would they have qualified from our group this season, would we qualify from theirs
His 1992-93 league winning side was the most expensive assembly of players in English football history. £300 is just a similar inflation of that.greasedupdeafguy said:He didn't spend 300 million though did he and at least he won a european trophy in the first 5 years of his reign while we've been knocked out with a wimper every european campaign since Mancini took over.Caveman said:Schmeichel Irwin Neville Ince Keane Scholes Kanchelskis Giggs Hughes Cantona Beckham all played for United over those five years.greasedupdeafguy said:Did he have the squad which Mancini has, it is fucking embarrassing that we have not won a single group game.
chesterbells said:cookster said:Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.
Have a look at Mourinho's, Klopp and Pep's
Absolutely.
I don't see what fergusons record from decades ago has got to do with anything. He's a complete irrelevance to our club.
The answer to the op is obvious:
If there was someone better available
Yep Arsenal doing great at the momentDavs 19 said:chesterbells said:cookster said:Have a look at Mourinho's, Klopp and Pep's
Absolutely.
I don't see what fergusons record from decades ago has got to do with anything. He's a complete irrelevance to our club.
The answer to the op is obvious:
If there was someone better available
Of course, always chase the next big thing and bollocks to any sort of stability. The perfect recipe for sustainable growth and success.
grim up north said:NipHolmes said:Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.
Why not talk about how Malaga, PSG, Napoli (on top of my head) have all qualified in first time of asking. Napoli in particular have 2 players that could get in our team yet we got 1 point from 2 legs from them.
Would they have qualified from our group this season, would we qualify from theirs
Vienna_70 said:grim up north said:NipHolmes said:Why not talk about how Malaga, PSG, Napoli (on top of my head) have all qualified in first time of asking. Napoli in particular have 2 players that could get in our team yet we got 1 point from 2 legs from them.
Would they have qualified from our group this season, would we qualify from theirs
That is a very good point.
How many CL groups in the competition's history have contained four domestic champions?
Not many, I'd wager.
3. Drew the three home games.Bosno said:2 points in group stage of Champions League. Didn't even make Europa League? Not making it to knockout stage two years in a row with that much money spent. I don't know any reason at all.
baildon blue said:There is no point getting upset about the Champions League tonight.I dont expect Mancini to be sacked tommorow or next week.We had nothing to gain from tonights result
B\connellblue said:This time 3 years ago the majority on here didn't want that cnut hughes sacked. That didn't do us much harm now did it?
Now this is very interesting.Caveman said:Have a look at Ferguson's first five CL campaigns.cookster said:5 Champ League campaigns, 1 QTR Final with Inter.
Just a thought....