Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?
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blumoonrisen
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Q) "Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?"...
A) because for some people the possibility of 2 consecutive league titles, 2 FA cups and a community shield in 2yrs isn't enough to satisfy their impatient needs, a trait which also leads them to judge now rather than wait till the end of the season.
A) because for some people the possibility of 2 consecutive league titles, 2 FA cups and a community shield in 2yrs isn't enough to satisfy their impatient needs, a trait which also leads them to judge now rather than wait till the end of the season.
Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City
They actually think they are being clever. How clever is to rack up so many posts on a rivals website. Worried and obsessed are the words that immediately spring to mind.
CityCTID said:Dethred said:
They actually think they are being clever. How clever is to rack up so many posts on a rivals website. Worried and obsessed are the words that immediately spring to mind.
Mr Ed (The Stables)
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Fortunately our wonderful owners will have everything in hand one way or another. In them I place my trust!!
mcmanus
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Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City
Well when you spell it out like that... you sound worse than my uncle the fucking red twat that he is.
He's still shitting it about Sunday. Are you?
Dethred said:
Well when you spell it out like that... you sound worse than my uncle the fucking red twat that he is.
He's still shitting it about Sunday. Are you?
He is a chequebook manager, and an average one at that.
His tantrums in the summer because Van Persie didn't fancy being rotated when in form by the Lewis Archer lookalike were indicative of what a paranoid fraud he is.
Mourinho poked someone in the eye, playing the pantomime villian and taking a hefty fine on the chin, to draw attention away from the fact his players had lost against Barcelona; Mancini slated Joe Hart for rightly stating the team should not be apologetic for going to Madrid looking for at least a point.
A good indicator of his man-management skills (of lack of) is the Tevez situation; the rest of the players, who have a better insight into it than the media or us supporters, embraced his treturn inning return with open arms. Would they have done so if he had abandoned them in the manner big-spending Bobby and the pro-United media depicted? I think not.
For me, the unjust leeway he affords Balotelli has cost him the respect of the squad.
On to his 'tactics'; put as many £25m+ footballers on the pitch at the same time and hope one of them wins the game. Genius. It worked domestically last ŷear, but only just. We won the league on goal difference against a team that contained Anderson, Evans, Young, Welbeck, Jones, Smalling that alternated between two garbage goalkeepers and lost it's captain and best defender for most of the season. If the teams swapped managers, would Mancini have got that team level on points with ours? I think he'd struggle for top 4.
Look around Europe, at Dortmund, at Juventus, and Atletico; dynamic, well drilled, strategic, tactically refined and hard-working, teams with a recognisable style of play, shrewd signings, a core of domestic players, and a balance of style and substance that has eluded us.
They are led by winners, Klopp, Conte and Simeone. Men who have earned the respect of their players, whose players believe in their methods and will fight for them. Men who would properly value James Milner. They are making us look like naive.
Success is relative, and I don't see what Mancini has done what 80% of the managers in circulation wouldn't have.
His tantrums in the summer because Van Persie didn't fancy being rotated when in form by the Lewis Archer lookalike were indicative of what a paranoid fraud he is.
Mourinho poked someone in the eye, playing the pantomime villian and taking a hefty fine on the chin, to draw attention away from the fact his players had lost against Barcelona; Mancini slated Joe Hart for rightly stating the team should not be apologetic for going to Madrid looking for at least a point.
A good indicator of his man-management skills (of lack of) is the Tevez situation; the rest of the players, who have a better insight into it than the media or us supporters, embraced his treturn inning return with open arms. Would they have done so if he had abandoned them in the manner big-spending Bobby and the pro-United media depicted? I think not.
For me, the unjust leeway he affords Balotelli has cost him the respect of the squad.
On to his 'tactics'; put as many £25m+ footballers on the pitch at the same time and hope one of them wins the game. Genius. It worked domestically last ŷear, but only just. We won the league on goal difference against a team that contained Anderson, Evans, Young, Welbeck, Jones, Smalling that alternated between two garbage goalkeepers and lost it's captain and best defender for most of the season. If the teams swapped managers, would Mancini have got that team level on points with ours? I think he'd struggle for top 4.
Look around Europe, at Dortmund, at Juventus, and Atletico; dynamic, well drilled, strategic, tactically refined and hard-working, teams with a recognisable style of play, shrewd signings, a core of domestic players, and a balance of style and substance that has eluded us.
They are led by winners, Klopp, Conte and Simeone. Men who have earned the respect of their players, whose players believe in their methods and will fight for them. Men who would properly value James Milner. They are making us look like naive.
Success is relative, and I don't see what Mancini has done what 80% of the managers in circulation wouldn't have.
Lucky13
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Our owners will never sack him , if he fails to win the League he should resign.
jimharri
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It'll be ridiculous to sack him at this stage of the season, when we still have the league and the FA Cup to play or. However; I would take a guess and say that if we don't win the league, Mancini will be on very thin ice.Lucky13 said:
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I'm firmly in the 'Mancini In' camp (it's ridiculous that this whole In vs Out nonsense has reared its ugly head again), but I actually think Freestyler makes a pertinent point. When we secured Mancini's services it was a bit of a coup for us and he was clearly a huge improvement on what we had at the time. But would Mancini be on the list of candidates if that job was made available now? I doubt it.
I appreciate that it's a ridiculously hypothetical point I'm trying to make, but I do strongly believe it is possible to make a step up from Mancini, and while that remains the case his future will always be in doubt. I don't think the owner is in a huge rush and I still think we'll win the league this year (and much more comfortably than last year), but if he fails to progress in the CL next season then he is toast, and I think that'd be fair enough.
I appreciate that it's a ridiculously hypothetical point I'm trying to make, but I do strongly believe it is possible to make a step up from Mancini, and while that remains the case his future will always be in doubt. I don't think the owner is in a huge rush and I still think we'll win the league this year (and much more comfortably than last year), but if he fails to progress in the CL next season then he is toast, and I think that'd be fair enough.
inchy14
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Razak can't last 90 minutes in the carling cup, Guidetti is I'll and the other 2 seem miles away but yes let's give the youth a chance, they're not up to it.mansour's tow ropes said:
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inchy14 said:
when we were 5-0 up against villa do you not think we could have given a youngster 10 minutes?
what about the sunderland game, 3-0? piss easy and could have given someone a run out
or what about the numerous 3/4 - 0 wins at home last season? considering our academy is the future of the club, i am puzzled as to why more hasn't been made of the youth players
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jimharri said:
I personally hope Mancini does not go.
I think we (City supporters) are very lucky and fortunate to have owners at our football club that have an understanding of what the majority of our supporters want and I respect the Sheikh and the people that represent him for choosing not to be as trigger happy as others around our league. Mancini has the credits up his sleeve of delivering trophies to this football club, therefore in my opinion, he has earned the right to still be Manchester City manager
Yes, owners have goals and ambitions for our football club, but I believe that the owners do care and respect our views, after all, we are the people that support and have a passion for this football club 24 hrs/ 7 days/ 366 days a year...and I think they can clearly see that we are stoked that we've have won 2 prestigious trophies in the last 3 years in the FA Cup and the English Premier League.
And I don't want to come across as being one of these people that are "wow look at our trophies, considering where we've come from, we're awesome today!"
I'm simply being realistic. Europe is where Manchester City wants to be successful one day. Our club's goal in the short to medium term is to be able to get into Europe and have an impact ie: Make Last 16, Final 8 etc.
To win the Champions League is a combination of strength, skill, will and luck over a 13 game knockout period. Hard to win because the quality of the clubs competing for this trophy is the highest but the Sheikh has the financial strength and foresight to be able to make success in the UCL, a realistic goal for our club in the mid to long term future.
Yes, the WOM's and people who have an agenda against our football club are going to look at the dollar figures and go..."HELLO...THIS IS ULTIMATE FAIL"
Yes, to those that want Mancini to be the proverbial sacrificial lamb...he has failed in Europe twice...but I think the Sheikh has his own standards.
I think Manchester City will try to win both the FA Cup and the EPL Title.
My prediction is that if City win 1 of these trophies by the end of May 2013...Mancini stays
If City don't win a trophy...I think he will be on thin ice...and I know if I was an owner of a rich club and saw Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho available this off season...it would be hard not to pursue either of them.
If Mancini is fortunate enough to stay for the 13/14 campaign, results in Europe will be an absolute must if he is to survive past this time next year.
Blue Haze said:
So where do you get this inevitable feeling from??
Didn't our owners think hey we have a top manager here, here's a 5 year contract?!
Sorry but you listen to the media and read it and take it all in like a good little sheep!
Vladika
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Silly impatient boys.
Like I said in the other thread, unless you have a terminal illness or are so old you could die naturally any minute now, then you have no right to act impatient.
Stop demanding next level success so quickly.
Like I said in the other thread, unless you have a terminal illness or are so old you could die naturally any minute now, then you have no right to act impatient.
Stop demanding next level success so quickly.
To the OP:
If YOU were the owner of this club, watching the squad he has and RESULTS he has so far this season (exit FA cup, exit CL/EL)...you'd probably be asking yourself some questions...
With this squad he should be doing much more than he is.
Since we're out of both cups so far - I think his future will depend on retaining the title this year.
If he fails at that too - he will be out, no question. And he should. To have one of the deepest squads in the world and have only 2nd place in EPL to show for it (hope not) would be MAJOR underachievement.
If YOU were the owner of this club, watching the squad he has and RESULTS he has so far this season (exit FA cup, exit CL/EL)...you'd probably be asking yourself some questions...
With this squad he should be doing much more than he is.
Since we're out of both cups so far - I think his future will depend on retaining the title this year.
If he fails at that too - he will be out, no question. And he should. To have one of the deepest squads in the world and have only 2nd place in EPL to show for it (hope not) would be MAJOR underachievement.
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Stoned Rose said:
This is just another extension of the Roman Abramovitch syndrome - If yer don't win me X, yer outta the door. Unbelievable, insane, perhaps inevitable these days, but yer wonder what mentality is at work that underpins such a strategy.
shevtheblue
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I think mancini has earned the right to be judged at end of the season. If he gets a league win again i for one will be very happy.
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