Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[moomba]

we have the likes of rekik, suarez, razak, guidetti etc on the fringes who should really have been given a few more 10 minute cameos off the bench when games have been comfortably won.

instead he hasn't so they are nowhere near enough to being comfortable in the first eleven as they could be.

he could really have given nimely a run out for the last 15/20 minutes, why did he bring zab on instead?

Razak can't last 90 minutes in the carling cup, Guidetti is I'll and the other 2 seem miles away but yes let's give the youth a chance, they're not up to it.

when we were 5-0 up against villa do you not think we could have given a youngster 10 minutes?

what about the sunderland game, 3-0? piss easy and could have given someone a run out

or what about the numerous 3/4 - 0 wins at home last season? considering our academy is the future of the club, i am puzzled as to why more hasn't been made of the youth players

We've got a squad full of senior players all of who probably want to play more than they do. I've no problem with giving kids a chance but we need to keep the whole squad happy first.

 

[Chippy_boy]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

 

[The Future's Blue]

To the OP:

If YOU were the owner of this club, watching the squad he has and RESULTS he has so far this season (exit FA cup, exit CL/EL)...you'd probably be asking yourself some questions...

With this squad he should be doing much more than he is.

Since we're out of both cups so far - I think his future will depend on retaining the title this year.

If he fails at that too - he will be out, no question. And he should. To have one of the deepest squads in the world and have only 2nd place in EPL to show for it (hope not) would be MAJOR underachievement.

I suppose it deflects from Dzeko not scoring.

 

[CityTwang]

I think mancini has earned the right to be judged at end of the season. If he gets a league win again i for one will be very happy.

I will be very, very happy.

 

[Anonymous]

To the OP:

If YOU were the owner of this club, watching the squad he has and RESULTS he has so far this season (exit FA cup, exit CL/EL)...you'd probably be asking yourself some questions...

With this squad he should be doing much more than he is.

Since we're out of both cups so far - I think his future will depend on retaining the title this year.

If he fails at that too - he will be out, no question. And he should. To have one of the deepest squads in the world and have only 2nd place in EPL to show for it (hope not) would be MAJOR underachievement.

I suppose it deflects from Dzeko not scoring.

That post is a pathetic attempt to draw attention away from our manager's shortcomings. Not surprised it's you at the helm of it.

 

[sboroMCFC]

Last season we were very unlucky not to qualify from our group with our points total. This season we have faced 2 of the best teams in Europe and a competent Ajax side that were 3 minutes away from drawing away at Dortmund. We also very nearly beat Real Madrid and again we were unlucky. Ajax at home could have been very different had we got some decisions. I'm not making excuses but at this level it's small margins.

It's just typical City. You know full well that we'll win the champions league one day in the most ridiculous fashion whilst getting relegated!

 

[jellert]

Nobody is talking about the football that is played..... In Europe City plays like a League one side. It looks terrible... No creativity at all.

Mancini never wants to take a risk. How much money has he spend? And the football is a disgrace

 

[Chippy_boy]

Last season we were very unlucky not to qualify from our group with our points total. This season we have faced 2 of the best teams in Europe and a competent Ajax side that were 3 minutes away from drawing away at Dortmund. We also very nearly beat Real Madrid and again we were unlucky. Ajax at home could have been very different had we got some decisions. I'm not making excuses but at this level it's small margins.

It's just typical City. You know full well that we'll win the champions league one day in the most ridiculous fashion whilst getting relegated!

I think you have rose coloured glasses on. Or blue ones.

We were shite last year as well. We were extremely fortunate to get to 7 points when 3 of them were from a 90th minute rescue against Villareal at home. And then 3 more when Bayern threw the last game by playing their B side. 10 points flattered us and I am not sure we would have got 10 had Bayern werent already through.

This season we were *battered* in Madrid by a very poor Real side. Yes we might have fluked a win or a point, but it would have been a travesty.

The only game we were unlucky in was Ajax at home, where I do believe we were robbed by some duff refereeing. You would be right to ask why we had to come from 2 down in the first place though.

 

[Damanino]

There are simply no positive side of our two CL campaigns so far.

We got more experienced thats it.

Our wins came from mainly beating Villarreal who lost easier against Bayern and Napoli too and finished the group with 0 points. And then they went on and relegated from La Liga. It just says how horrible season they had.

This year not a single win. Too many tinkering, amateur defensive mistakes (conceding goals from corners in a row), no gamepan how to attack, panic etc.

Mancini should do lot better or avoid the basic mistakes because he was an experienced CL coach before.

We were up agaist Klopp, Mazzari, Frank De Boer.

Klopp= second season in CL.
F. De Boer= third season in CL.
Mazzari last year= first ever year in CL.
Mancini=6th full season in CL with a very strong squad.

Most CL experience for Mancini out of these managers.

 

[zlaz3r]

There are simply no positive side of our two CL campaigns so far.

We got more experienced thats it.

Our wins came from mainly beating Villarreal who lost easier against Bayern and Napoli too and finished the group with 0 points. And then they went on and relegated from La Liga. It just says how horrible season they had.

This year not a single win. Too many tinkering, amateur defensive mistakes (conceding goals from corners in a row), no gamepan how to attack, panic etc.

Mancini should do lot better or avoid the basic mistakes because he was an experienced CL coach before.

We were up agaist Klopp, Mazzari, Frank De Boer.

Klopp= second season in CL.
F. De Boer= third season in CL.
Mazzari last year= first ever year in CL.
Mancini=6th full season in CL with a very strong squad.

Most CL experience for Mancini out of these managers.

+1

 

[Blue Haze]

There's a difference between wanting his sacking and feeling it's inevitable.

So where do you get this inevitable feeling from??

Didn't our owners think hey we have a top manager here, here's a 5 year contract?!

Sorry but you listen to the media and read it and take it all in like a good little sheep!

From the apparent reality that Mancini cannot succeed in Europe. Advancing in that competition is paramount to our success from many crucial angles: marketing, FFP, UEFA coefficients, and generally not being the laughingstock of Europe. These losses are probably damaging our brand.

After we won the league, I convinced myself that Mancini would learn from all his failures in Europe and improve. Instead we put up the worst performance of any English club in the history of the CL. It's not the level of competition either. Sporting beat us last season and Kyiv the season before. For whatever reason our football in Europe is turgid and Mancini cannot fix it.

I guess we can keep this up and hope that Mancini will suddenly transform into the successful European manager our owner almost certainly wants, but how likely is that given what we've seen? It doesn't seem like a realistic hope anymore.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Without a doubt Real and Dortmund are 2 of the top 3 or 4 teams in europe.

what is worrying is our slowness breaking forward, how long do we have to wait till this is sorted out.

before sunday would be nice

 

[Didsbury Dave]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

 

[KennyG]

Now would be the time for Bobbys agent to start asking around
Shit is heading straight for the fan
We will never be a force in europe under this guy
Therefore chances of becoming a global brand diminish
The barca duo have been given the power to do this and its gonna be minus bobby
Thanks for the memories I say, you elevated the club to a new level but where we aim to go, you simply cannot reach, can be no sentiment with stakes so high

 

[hertsblue]

I think mancini has earned the right to be judged at end of the season. If he gets a league win again i for one will be very happy.

I will be very, very happy.

This. + Back him with his targets, if any, in January.
Summer transfer policy was awfull. Like he asked for Bollinger champagne and was given Lambrusco.

 

[the goats backside]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

There's a whole load of people on here who seem offended that anyone should question whether a change of management might be necessary. Like its a sign of disloyalty or unreasonable impatience.

I don't agree with that view. Of course I don't want knee jerk actions, of course not, no-one does. But that does not mean you should not continually assess how you are doing to make sure you are doing everything you can to stay on track. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to take actions when they are needed is perhaps no less stupid than taking knee jerk actions all the time.

If I was the owner, I would be asking myself "is Mancini the guy who will deliver title after title and success in the CL, given time?". It's a fair question. Or was he lucky to scrape home last season, and unlikely to consistently repeat that achievement? Was our CL performance excused by how tough the group was? Is our recent arrival on this stage an excuse? Or was it a sign that we have not progressed by now to the level we should be at?

These are fair questions in my view. I don't think it's wrong to be thinking them. Stability and sticking with people is all very admirable, but it's only the right thing to do if they are the right people to stick with. Does anyone believe Mark Hughes would have won us the title last year? That is why it was not unreasonable to sack him when we did.

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

Cheers Dave. Don't get me wrong I like Mancini and so want him to take the club to the next level. If he can do this,I am very much in doubt. Will he get another opportunity,again I doubt it especially if the powers that be can get Pep,Jose(don't really want him) or even someone like Ancelotti (who I really rate).
We as fans need to take stock,keep believing we can retain the title and on Sunday make some serious fucking noise.
Difficult times but I wouldn't change any of it bud.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Good post mate. As you say,there are many who have a pop or call you a disloyal blue if you have an opinion which is somewhat critical of the team,a player,a performance or the manager.
Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
Mancini will be gone by the summer at the latest. Let's be brutally honest here,if Aguero hadn't scored in May then would he still be boss.
?I am not sure to be honest.
I have been Mancinis staunchest supporter and have never once advocated a change as I believe stability is the key,however my opinion after this seasons European adventure has swayed me somewhat.
I do not care how hard the group was. 0 wins out of 6 is just not acceptable. I wanted the Europa league for our coefficient and a chance to win another trophy.
Clearly there are divisions within the squad and when you see players with no desire,passion or pride it really frustrates me.

Sunday is a pivotal moment for the club,team and us fans.I feel there is certainly a 50/50 split amongst what should happen to Mancini-do we keep him,do we look elsewhere?
Not kneejerk,just a considered opinion of where we are.

On a final note-I would take the premier league over the champs league every single year

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

 

[sir baconface]

The grass is always greener. Yeah there are problems with Mancini at the mo but both Mourinho and Pep have question marks against them in one respect or another. Klopp ain't the Messiah either and he ain't coming to the Etihad. None of these guys would guarantee anything. You've only got to look elsewhere on BM to see how split the views are.

The hierarchy needs to do some serious talking behind the scenes though. Motivation, tactics, scouting, signings, performance targets...nothing seems totally joined up. This is when the CEO needs to start earning his not inconsiderable salary.