Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[the goats backside]

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

It's what the owners think that counts, not me

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

Why would anyone want Bobby sacked? We just made history with him, now we are officially the worst English side in Champions League history

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

Col-For the first time ever I have to disagree with your opinion. He will be gone buddy.

 

[gio's side step]

Mancini will be here until the end of the season. Even if he wins the PL again, I think the owners are now looking elsewhere to take City to the next level (or phase 1 as they would call it).

Could quite easily be the case that within 2 years - Mourinho is managing Utd and Guardiola is managing City.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

It's what the owners think that counts, not me

Well i think it will be some achievement if mancini wins us another prem
He will have won the same amount of leagues and f a cups as the thug from madrid has in the same time period he was at chelsea

 

[the goats backside]

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

It's what the owners think that counts, not me

Well i think it will be some achievement if mancini wins us another prem
He will have won the same amount of leagues and f a cups as the thug from madrid has in the same time period he was at chelsea

I agree, to win the league again would be a huge achievement, although i think the standard at the top end has dropped over the last few years. I know we were in a shit group but the Ajax games were must wins and we were woeful at times. I just don't think we can challenge for Europe and the Prem at the minute and that is what our owners will insist on, especially with their plans. We talk about Dortmund being the best side we faced in our group, look at their league position, they are newish boys in Europe, got drubbed last year and won the German league, this year their priority seems to be Europe and that will be ok for them but not our owners

 

[bapi]

After Dortmund at home Mancini said he knows what the problem is and will solve it quickly - what happened after that?! 1:3, 2:2, 1:1 and 0:1! Definitely reached his limits in Europe! Had 6 years and showed nothing there! I'm sure this is his last season and he'll return to Italy.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Good, fair, post, and I am totally in agreement about what a huge game Sunday is - for Mancini. Lose it, and I don't think we'll come back. And he'll be gone in the summer.

We had a chance to paper over our European cracks last night but somehow we created a grand canyon. Whether people like it or not i am not sure even winning the league again will save RM

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

I posted a few weeks ago that I think his fate is decided already, or damned close anyway. Last night won't have helped his cause one iota. If he played a half-arsed game thinking we'd be better off out of the Euros, that was a poor decision in my view.

So long as we stay at the top of the league or close to it, he may be OK for a while but I think if a gap opens up, he's toast. What's keeping him in a job I think is us not wanting to leave us managerless if we got rid. And not wanting to appoint just anyone to replace him. There's a very short list of potential replacements and you have to get your target on board before you can do anything. I really do think if Pep said yes today, RM would be gone by tomorrow.

 

[B\connellblue]

When Mancini came first it was painful to watch. first half of last season was a joy, then we wobbled, then came home strong. This season we have started poorly, never mind we're 2nd. this is the worst premier league in years. This constant changing formations and line ups is doing no one any good. The third anniversary of mancinis reign draws closer. The chances are there won't be a 4th.

 

[City_Sean]

like ive already said, good in the league not in europe, tactically poor, slow inept football that allows teams to defend easily against us, you could have messi, ronaldo, iniesta and pique in this team and under mancini we wouldnt win the CL.

i love bobby, winning the league was the best moment in football ive ever seen, but spending 300 mil and not getting out a group 2 years in a row is woeful to say the least, plus this year WE ARE OFFICIALLY THE WORST ENGLISH TEAM IN CL HISTORY...

 

[Stoned Rose]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Here me out, this is NOT a 'Mancini out' post. Or in relation to tonight's failings against Dortmund. Just a post on how i feel about Mancini's future and why his job at City is constantly talked about.

Firstly we'll rule out the following comments, neither of 4 terms below are relevant to the post i will put forward:

1. 'Unbeaten in the league' - United have lost 3 games and sit above us in the league. Would you say 'unbeaten in the league' if we drew 38 games in a season? no. We've been shite most the season, could easily have lost games due to obscure tactics and substitutions and getting away with murder. We've been outplayed by teams in the bottom half of The Premiership time and time again.

2. 'He won us the league' - The resources given he should have walked the league. Won it due to a United downfall and it took Brian Kidd to convince Mancini we could claw it back. The quality of the side pulled us through IMO, you'd think we won it by 15 points the way some talk.

3. 'Remember where we've come from' - by FAR the most overused and stupidest comment around these days. We've got a team worth £400mill, not £5mill. It's 2012, not 1998. Give it a rest..

4. 'We need stability' - true, but stability and loyalty to managers counts for nothing when the team doesn't improve.

The reason:

When a club moves forward so does the managers. The owners/fans as each year goes on expect to see an improvement and City competing and performing at the highest level.

Mancini is a great manager, imo not one of the best in the world. Probably not even top 5 imo, when the club get's to a certain point it has to 'upgrade' so to speak with the level it moves towards. We've had Hughes who wasn't the best but played a part in buying bigger players and moving us forward ever so slightly and make us a better team, now we have Mancini. He's driven us on and taken us to the next part of our journey in what this club is aiming for, no expects instant glory and success but they want to see improvement and the club going forward.

Our team is built, the foundations are there now. We've got a top top side which should be able to compete at the highest level (not go and beat everyone and win everything) just compete and take the game to teams. I'd relish Mourinho at City, but i want Mancini to prove me wrong and not have me worrying about anyone else. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

Far too often we respect lesser teams. Instead of going for the kill when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play the game at a walking pace when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our own strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't. He holds us back, the small and little amount of times we have been given the freedom to attack we've been brilliant.

The key line here - Our side is now missing a proper tactical, inside out knowledgeable world class manager. If a manager came in he wouldn't have to buy more than 2 players, the ones at disposal now would be any managers dream. I like Mancini, but i think we need a real proper good tactical coach to take us to the next level. IMO Mancini is not that man, he'll only try to improve the squad by constant spending and not improve the team through management.

Europe is a far cry, he hasn't got it. The Premiership is another story, is HE really responsible for us winning the league? Our side needs a world class manager to make us what we want to be. The bottom line is, Mancini will be gone because he can't take us to that next level. Despite the fact that football's about opinions, more & more blues are taking offence at any honest comments made.

This is not 'Mancini out', remember i'm talking about having a manager being good enough to manage what he has. Mancini is not out of his depth, or a poor manager. He is a great manager but he just isn't up to scratch to take us to where the fans/owner want to be. He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there. But not the final piece of the jigsaw, and the height of quality we aimed for

Quite simply if you want be the best, you need to hire the best. We're reaching that level now...

Post of the year. Nice to see someone who understands the situation.

 

[chesterbells]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Here me out, this is NOT a 'Mancini out' post. Or in relation to tonight's failings against Dortmund. Just a post on how i feel about Mancini's future and why his job at City is constantly talked about.

Firstly we'll rule out the following comments, neither of 4 terms below are relevant to the post i will put forward:

1. 'Unbeaten in the league' - United have lost 3 games and sit above us in the league. Would you say 'unbeaten in the league' if we drew 38 games in a season? no. We've been shite most the season, could easily have lost games due to obscure tactics and substitutions and getting away with murder. We've been outplayed by teams in the bottom half of The Premiership time and time again.

2. 'He won us the league' - The resources given he should have walked the league. Won it due to a United downfall and it took Brian Kidd to convince Mancini we could claw it back. The quality of the side pulled us through IMO, you'd think we won it by 15 points the way some talk.

3. 'Remember where we've come from' - by FAR the most overused and stupidest comment around these days. We've got a team worth £400mill, not £5mill. It's 2012, not 1998. Give it a rest..

4. 'We need stability' - true, but stability and loyalty to managers counts for nothing when the team doesn't improve.

The reason:

When a club moves forward so does the managers. The owners/fans as each year goes on expect to see an improvement and City competing and performing at the highest level.

Mancini is a great manager, imo not one of the best in the world. Probably not even top 5 imo, when the club get's to a certain point it has to 'upgrade' so to speak with the level it moves towards. We've had Hughes who wasn't the best but played a part in buying bigger players and moving us forward ever so slightly and make us a better team, now we have Mancini. He's driven us on and taken us to the next part of our journey in what this club is aiming for, no expects instant glory and success but they want to see improvement and the club going forward.

Our team is built, the foundations are there now. We've got a top top side which should be able to compete at the highest level (not go and beat everyone and win everything) just compete and take the game to teams. I'd relish Mourinho at City, but i want Mancini to prove me wrong and not have me worrying about anyone else. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

Far too often we respect lesser teams. Instead of going for the kill when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play the game at a walking pace when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our own strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't. He holds us back, the small and little amount of times we have been given the freedom to attack we've been brilliant.

The key line here - Our side is now missing a proper tactical, inside out knowledgeable world class manager. If a manager came in he wouldn't have to buy more than 2 players, the ones at disposal now would be any managers dream. I like Mancini, but i think we need a real proper good tactical coach to take us to the next level. IMO Mancini is not that man, he'll only try to improve the squad by constant spending and not improve the team through management.

Europe is a far cry, he hasn't got it. The Premiership is another story, is HE really responsible for us winning the league? Our side needs a world class manager to make us what we want to be. The bottom line is, Mancini will be gone because he can't take us to that next level. Despite the fact that football's about opinions, more & more blues are taking offence at any honest comments made.

This is not 'Mancini out', remember i'm talking about having a manager being good enough to manage what he has. Mancini is not out of his depth, or a poor manager. He is a great manager but he just isn't up to scratch to take us to where the fans/owner want to be. He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there. But not the final piece of the jigsaw, and the height of quality we aimed for

Quite simply if you want be the best, you need to hire the best. We're reaching that level now...

Post of the year. Nice to see someone who understands the situation.

A lot of sense here

 

[bluemc1]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Here me out, this is NOT a 'Mancini out' post. Or in relation to tonight's failings against Dortmund. Just a post on how i feel about Mancini's future and why his job at City is constantly talked about.

Firstly we'll rule out the following comments, neither of 4 terms below are relevant to the post i will put forward:

1. 'Unbeaten in the league' - United have lost 3 games and sit above us in the league. Would you say 'unbeaten in the league' if we drew 38 games in a season? no. We've been shite most the season, could easily have lost games due to obscure tactics and substitutions and getting away with murder. We've been outplayed by teams in the bottom half of The Premiership time and time again.

2. 'He won us the league' - The resources given he should have walked the league. Won it due to a United downfall and it took Brian Kidd to convince Mancini we could claw it back. The quality of the side pulled us through IMO, you'd think we won it by 15 points the way some talk.

3. 'Remember where we've come from' - by FAR the most overused and stupidest comment around these days. We've got a team worth £400mill, not £5mill. It's 2012, not 1998. Give it a rest..

4. 'We need stability' - true, but stability and loyalty to managers counts for nothing when the team doesn't improve.

The reason:

When a club moves forward so does the managers. The owners/fans as each year goes on expect to see an improvement and City competing and performing at the highest level.

Mancini is a great manager, imo not one of the best in the world. Probably not even top 5 imo, when the club get's to a certain point it has to 'upgrade' so to speak with the level it moves towards. We've had Hughes who wasn't the best but played a part in buying bigger players and moving us forward ever so slightly and make us a better team, now we have Mancini. He's driven us on and taken us to the next part of our journey in what this club is aiming for, no expects instant glory and success but they want to see improvement and the club going forward.

Our team is built, the foundations are there now. We've got a top top side which should be able to compete at the highest level (not go and beat everyone and win everything) just compete and take the game to teams. I'd relish Mourinho at City, but i want Mancini to prove me wrong and not have me worrying about anyone else. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

Far too often we respect lesser teams. Instead of going for the kill when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play the game at a walking pace when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our own strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't. He holds us back, the small and little amount of times we have been given the freedom to attack we've been brilliant.

The key line here - Our side is now missing a proper tactical, inside out knowledgeable world class manager. If a manager came in he wouldn't have to buy more than 2 players, the ones at disposal now would be any managers dream. I like Mancini, but i think we need a real proper good tactical coach to take us to the next level. IMO Mancini is not that man, he'll only try to improve the squad by constant spending and not improve the team through management.

Europe is a far cry, he hasn't got it. The Premiership is another story, is HE really responsible for us winning the league? Our side needs a world class manager to make us what we want to be. The bottom line is, Mancini will be gone because he can't take us to that next level. Despite the fact that football's about opinions, more & more blues are taking offence at any honest comments made.

This is not 'Mancini out', remember i'm talking about having a manager being good enough to manage what he has. Mancini is not out of his depth, or a poor manager. He is a great manager but he just isn't up to scratch to take us to where the fans/owner want to be. He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there. But not the final piece of the jigsaw, and the height of quality we aimed for

Quite simply if you want be the best, you need to hire the best. We're reaching that level now...

Post of the year. Nice to see someone who understands the situation.

yep everything is spot on

 

[Ladybarn Blue .]

There's a difference between wanting his sacking and feeling it's inevitable.

Every manager gets sacked - the Govan piss can being the obvious exception - but Roberto is safe for at least another season, IMHO.

The goven "P--s" just love it .

How you make these sayings . Keep them comong please .

 

[Oyster28catcher]

http://thelionspitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/roberto-mancini_safecrowd-for-Fans.jpg

ONLY ONE CHOICE.

 

[blue44]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Here me out, this is NOT a 'Mancini out' post. Or in relation to tonight's failings against Dortmund. Just a post on how i feel about Mancini's future and why his job at City is constantly talked about.

Firstly we'll rule out the following comments, neither of 4 terms below are relevant to the post i will put forward:

1. 'Unbeaten in the league' - United have lost 3 games and sit above us in the league. Would you say 'unbeaten in the league' if we drew 38 games in a season? no. We've been shite most the season, could easily have lost games due to obscure tactics and substitutions and getting away with murder. We've been outplayed by teams in the bottom half of The Premiership time and time again.

2. 'He won us the league' - The resources given he should have walked the league. Won it due to a United downfall and it took Brian Kidd to convince Mancini we could claw it back. The quality of the side pulled us through IMO, you'd think we won it by 15 points the way some talk.

3. 'Remember where we've come from' - by FAR the most overused and stupidest comment around these days. We've got a team worth £400mill, not £5mill. It's 2012, not 1998. Give it a rest..

4. 'We need stability' - true, but stability and loyalty to managers counts for nothing when the team doesn't improve.

The reason:

When a club moves forward so does the managers. The owners/fans as each year goes on expect to see an improvement and City competing and performing at the highest level.

Mancini is a great manager, imo not one of the best in the world. Probably not even top 5 imo, when the club get's to a certain point it has to 'upgrade' so to speak with the level it moves towards. We've had Hughes who wasn't the best but played a part in buying bigger players and moving us forward ever so slightly and make us a better team, now we have Mancini. He's driven us on and taken us to the next part of our journey in what this club is aiming for, no expects instant glory and success but they want to see improvement and the club going forward.

Our team is built, the foundations are there now. We've got a top top side which should be able to compete at the highest level (not go and beat everyone and win everything) just compete and take the game to teams. I'd relish Mourinho at City, but i want Mancini to prove me wrong and not have me worrying about anyone else. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

Far too often we respect lesser teams. Instead of going for the kill when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play the game at a walking pace when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our own strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't. He holds us back, the small and little amount of times we have been given the freedom to attack we've been brilliant.

The key line here - Our side is now missing a proper tactical, inside out knowledgeable world class manager. If a manager came in he wouldn't have to buy more than 2 players, the ones at disposal now would be any managers dream. I like Mancini, but i think we need a real proper good tactical coach to take us to the next level. IMO Mancini is not that man, he'll only try to improve the squad by constant spending and not improve the team through management.

Europe is a far cry, he hasn't got it. The Premiership is another story, is HE really responsible for us winning the league? Our side needs a world class manager to make us what we want to be. The bottom line is, Mancini will be gone because he can't take us to that next level. Despite the fact that football's about opinions, more & more blues are taking offence at any honest comments made.

This is not 'Mancini out', remember i'm talking about having a manager being good enough to manage what he has. Mancini is not out of his depth, or a poor manager. He is a great manager but he just isn't up to scratch to take us to where the fans/owner want to be. He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there. But not the final piece of the jigsaw, and the height of quality we aimed for

Quite simply if you want be the best, you need to hire the best. We're reaching that level now...

Great post,every year the bar is being risen with city,the owners have said from the start where they want success,europe,its not coming at the moment is it?,by a long chalk.i honestly believe whatever happens now this season mancini is a dead man walking,i just hope it doesn't effect the whole club from top to bottem,i reckon most people on bluemoon are reluctant to say what they really feel about mancini if they're not pro mancini,no-one really wants chop and change but i personally cant see him being here next season now.

 

[olddirty]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Here me out, this is NOT a 'Mancini out' post. Or in relation to tonight's failings against Dortmund. Just a post on how i feel about Mancini's future and why his job at City is constantly talked about.

Firstly we'll rule out the following comments, neither of 4 terms below are relevant to the post i will put forward:

1. 'Unbeaten in the league' - United have lost 3 games and sit above us in the league. Would you say 'unbeaten in the league' if we drew 38 games in a season? no. We've been shite most the season, could easily have lost games due to obscure tactics and substitutions and getting away with murder. We've been outplayed by teams in the bottom half of The Premiership time and time again.

2. 'He won us the league' - The resources given he should have walked the league. Won it due to a United downfall and it took Brian Kidd to convince Mancini we could claw it back. The quality of the side pulled us through IMO, you'd think we won it by 15 points the way some talk.

3. 'Remember where we've come from' - by FAR the most overused and stupidest comment around these days. We've got a team worth £400mill, not £5mill. It's 2012, not 1998. Give it a rest..

4. 'We need stability' - true, but stability and loyalty to managers counts for nothing when the team doesn't improve.

The reason:

When a club moves forward so does the managers. The owners/fans as each year goes on expect to see an improvement and City competing and performing at the highest level.

Mancini is a great manager, imo not one of the best in the world. Probably not even top 5 imo, when the club get's to a certain point it has to 'upgrade' so to speak with the level it moves towards. We've had Hughes who wasn't the best but played a part in buying bigger players and moving us forward ever so slightly and make us a better team, now we have Mancini. He's driven us on and taken us to the next part of our journey in what this club is aiming for, no expects instant glory and success but they want to see improvement and the club going forward.

Our team is built, the foundations are there now. We've got a top top side which should be able to compete at the highest level (not go and beat everyone and win everything) just compete and take the game to teams. I'd relish Mourinho at City, but i want Mancini to prove me wrong and not have me worrying about anyone else. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

Far too often we respect lesser teams. Instead of going for the kill when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play the game at a walking pace when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our own strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't. He holds us back, the small and little amount of times we have been given the freedom to attack we've been brilliant.

The key line here - Our side is now missing a proper tactical, inside out knowledgeable world class manager. If a manager came in he wouldn't have to buy more than 2 players, the ones at disposal now would be any managers dream. I like Mancini, but i think we need a real proper good tactical coach to take us to the next level. IMO Mancini is not that man, he'll only try to improve the squad by constant spending and not improve the team through management.

Europe is a far cry, he hasn't got it. The Premiership is another story, is HE really responsible for us winning the league? Our side needs a world class manager to make us what we want to be. The bottom line is, Mancini will be gone because he can't take us to that next level. Despite the fact that football's about opinions, more & more blues are taking offence at any honest comments made.

This is not 'Mancini out', remember i'm talking about having a manager being good enough to manage what he has. Mancini is not out of his depth, or a poor manager. He is a great manager but he just isn't up to scratch to take us to where the fans/owner want to be. He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there. But not the final piece of the jigsaw, and the height of quality we aimed for

Quite simply if you want be the best, you need to hire the best. We're reaching that level now...

Post of the year. Nice to see someone who understands the situation.

yep everything is spot on

Agreed.

 

[Davs 19]

To the OP:

If YOU were the owner of this club, watching the squad he has and RESULTS he has so far this season (exit FA cup, exit CL/EL)...you'd probably be asking yourself some questions...

With this squad he should be doing much more than he is.

Since we're out of both cups so far - I think his future will depend on retaining the title this year.

If he fails at that too - he will be out, no question. And he should. To have one of the deepest squads in the world and have only 2nd place in EPL to show for it (hope not) would be MAJOR underachievement.

I got to 'EPL' and then stopped. 2 full seasons, 2 major trophies (the first since '76) and unbeaten in the Prem this season. I really don't see a big problem.

 

[The Future's Blue]

To the OP:

If YOU were the owner of this club, watching the squad he has and RESULTS he has so far this season (exit FA cup, exit CL/EL)...you'd probably be asking yourself some questions...

With this squad he should be doing much more than he is.

Since we're out of both cups so far - I think his future will depend on retaining the title this year.

If he fails at that too - he will be out, no question. And he should. To have one of the deepest squads in the world and have only 2nd place in EPL to show for it (hope not) would be MAJOR underachievement.

I suppose it deflects from Dzeko not scoring.

That post is a pathetic attempt to draw attention away from our manager's shortcomings. Not surprised it's you at the helm of it.

Oh bugger, you've caught me. I wish I hadn't upset you now.

 

[Balti]

So he could be a double prem league winner and you think thats not enough?

It's what the owners think that counts, not me

Well i think it will be some achievement if mancini wins us another prem
He will have won the same amount of leagues and f a cups as the thug from madrid has in the same time period he was at chelsea

Agreed. Look at the rags/chelski. Europe is a difficult nut to crack and all the instant success merchants on here are deluded if they think that sacking yet another manager will change that. Mancini deserves the rest of this season as a minimum before he is even judged. Too many on here had him hung drawn and quartered last season before we won it at the death and should have learned a little lesson in patience.

As for the rags on here towing the 'worst record ever' line well who gives a shit. I'd rather we are focused on trying to retain our title than be bragging about qualifying for the meaningless also-ran competition. I've said all along that the league is the top priority. We were never going to win the CL anyway and despite the doom and gloom you can bet your arse that lessons have certainly been learned. For me he gets one more crack at it next year but must progress beyond the group stages or his time is up no matter how many of us continue to admire his domestic achievements.