unlikelyfan19
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Wilfried Bony
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If a player signs the thread closes so it is players who dont sign or take a long time who get the longest threads.chesterbells said:300 pages on a player who's not even signed yet.
Big thread for a fairly short period of speculation I agree though.
Dribble
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Posh and Scouser...... Now there's 2 words I never thought I'd hear in the same sentence.aguero93:20 said:ArdwickBlue said:Sergi0 Na5r1 said:It's a liverpool fan, they can't be arsed knowing the difference. Probably wears his right shoe on the left foot.
You mean trainers?.
Nah, only posh Scousers have trainers or shoes. Unless they nicked them.
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[bigimg]http://www.cloudbooster.net/files/covers/art-365493-1372895827.jpg[/bigimg]unlikelyfan19 said:pftchesterbells said:300 pages on a player who's not even signed yet.
Now where's that De Rossi thread gone?
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Ronaldinho...unlikelyfan19 said:pftchesterbells said:300 pages on a player who's not even signed yet.
Now where's that De Rossi thread gone?
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Bill
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mr brennan has his say. i'm on the fence here. really like bony but i thought tevez was fantastic for us.
Gary Neville feels that Wilfried Bony is not the right fit for Manchester City.
And when a pundit as respected as the former United defender speaks out, it can send a chill down the spine of a manager, even one as calm and collected as Manuel Pellegrini, when his club has just shelled out £25million.
Neville’s contention, in his Daily Telegraph column, is that Bony ‘is not certain to add the kind of intricacy and ferocious intensity they found in the Sergio Aguero and Carlos Tevez partnership’.
The only problem is that the Tevez-Aguero partnership is something of a myth. It is one that is widely held by City fans as well, when it was often said that City did not lose when those two started together.
That was true, as the Blues only lost one of the 22 games when they were in the line-up – the FA Cup final against Wigan.
But they only started 22 times together, as Roberto Mancini felt they were not a good fit.
In the 2011-12 season, when Neville thinks the modern City side were at their best, Tevez and Aguero started together seven times.
True, they won all seven and scored 11 goals between them, but all of those games were against lesser opposition – not one of them was in the Champions League, and only once, in the 1-0 win over United, was against a top-four team.
Until Tevez returned from self-imposed exile to help City over the finishing line in the title race, Mancini was reluctant to team them up – he usually played Aguero with Edin Dzeko, and Tevez with Mario Balotelli.
It has been the same with Argentina, with successive managers rarely playing them together.
Memories are maybe influenced by the 6-1 win at Norwich, when they truly did click, Tevez scoring three and Aguero two.
But for the rest of the time together, they were two world-class players in the same team, rather than a true partnership.
The two games that clinched the title, Newcastle and QPR, were both won AFTER Tevez had been substituted, with the partnership not working.
Mancini continued to leave one of them on the bench for every big game in the following season, except the FA Cup semi-final win over Chelsea.
Both like to drop deep, pick up the ball and go at defenders, Aguero with pace, Tevez with balance and tenacity, both using teammates as walls off which to bounce passes.
So, when it comes to Bony, will he be more suited to Aguero’s style? Only time will tell.
But many City fans would argue that the first half of last season, when City destroyed teams and smashed goalscoring records, was the best football the Blues have played in modern times.
And it was centred around Aguero’s partnership with Alvaro Negredo, which started 13 games, winning 11. Aguero scored 15 goals in those games, and ‘Beast’ Negredo earned the love of the City fans with ten of his own, to eclipse the Tevez-Aguero partnership.
Negredo’s form dipped after his shoulder injury in January, and he was the natural victim of City’s need to trim their squad in the summer.
Bony has all of Negredo’s physical prowess, and more, being bigger and stronger. It is an amazing stat that City have had 123 corners since they last scored from one – Bony should help with that.
The Ivory Coast star has a better goals record in England, with 34 in 70 games, compared to Negredo’s 23 in 48, playing in a team nowhere near as creative. Swansea play passing football, and Bony has been integral to that – he has enough ability to have played midfield, holds the ball well and brings others into the game.
Of course, he now has to prove he can do at it the next level, but if he can take that step, Red Nev will be force-fed his own words.
Gary Neville feels that Wilfried Bony is not the right fit for Manchester City.
And when a pundit as respected as the former United defender speaks out, it can send a chill down the spine of a manager, even one as calm and collected as Manuel Pellegrini, when his club has just shelled out £25million.
Neville’s contention, in his Daily Telegraph column, is that Bony ‘is not certain to add the kind of intricacy and ferocious intensity they found in the Sergio Aguero and Carlos Tevez partnership’.
The only problem is that the Tevez-Aguero partnership is something of a myth. It is one that is widely held by City fans as well, when it was often said that City did not lose when those two started together.
That was true, as the Blues only lost one of the 22 games when they were in the line-up – the FA Cup final against Wigan.
But they only started 22 times together, as Roberto Mancini felt they were not a good fit.
In the 2011-12 season, when Neville thinks the modern City side were at their best, Tevez and Aguero started together seven times.
True, they won all seven and scored 11 goals between them, but all of those games were against lesser opposition – not one of them was in the Champions League, and only once, in the 1-0 win over United, was against a top-four team.
Until Tevez returned from self-imposed exile to help City over the finishing line in the title race, Mancini was reluctant to team them up – he usually played Aguero with Edin Dzeko, and Tevez with Mario Balotelli.
It has been the same with Argentina, with successive managers rarely playing them together.
Memories are maybe influenced by the 6-1 win at Norwich, when they truly did click, Tevez scoring three and Aguero two.
But for the rest of the time together, they were two world-class players in the same team, rather than a true partnership.
The two games that clinched the title, Newcastle and QPR, were both won AFTER Tevez had been substituted, with the partnership not working.
Mancini continued to leave one of them on the bench for every big game in the following season, except the FA Cup semi-final win over Chelsea.
Both like to drop deep, pick up the ball and go at defenders, Aguero with pace, Tevez with balance and tenacity, both using teammates as walls off which to bounce passes.
So, when it comes to Bony, will he be more suited to Aguero’s style? Only time will tell.
But many City fans would argue that the first half of last season, when City destroyed teams and smashed goalscoring records, was the best football the Blues have played in modern times.
And it was centred around Aguero’s partnership with Alvaro Negredo, which started 13 games, winning 11. Aguero scored 15 goals in those games, and ‘Beast’ Negredo earned the love of the City fans with ten of his own, to eclipse the Tevez-Aguero partnership.
Negredo’s form dipped after his shoulder injury in January, and he was the natural victim of City’s need to trim their squad in the summer.
Bony has all of Negredo’s physical prowess, and more, being bigger and stronger. It is an amazing stat that City have had 123 corners since they last scored from one – Bony should help with that.
The Ivory Coast star has a better goals record in England, with 34 in 70 games, compared to Negredo’s 23 in 48, playing in a team nowhere near as creative. Swansea play passing football, and Bony has been integral to that – he has enough ability to have played midfield, holds the ball well and brings others into the game.
Of course, he now has to prove he can do at it the next level, but if he can take that step, Red Nev will be force-fed his own words.
De Niro you are spot on regarding the Tevez Aguero partnership. I trust the board and in Bony they have identified one of the strongest players in the premiership. We can only hope that they start to create that blend of skill that Aguero and Negredo had.
meeesh
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Neville is a jealous red prick who deep down wishes they had got Bony,instead of that useless piece of shite Falcao,respected pundit my arse,fuck off
Newman Noggs
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meeesh said:Neville is a jealous red prick who deep down wishes they had got Bony,instead of that useless piece of shite Falcao,respected pundit my arse,fuck off
It goes with the "premier league has been poor for the last four years" narrative he was peddling last week. I think the mask is beginning to slip.
de niro said:And when a pundit as respected as the former United defender speaks out, it can send a chill down the spine of a manager
PMSL, is that for real
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