Will you attend City games if we join a European Super League?

[franksinatra]

Let me see:
No
No
And NO
This is an issue that requires us to really come together as supporters of the game.

Clubs are planning a social media blackout against racism - rightly so.
As supporters we have to come together and boycott a weekend of fixtures if this is for real

Not that effective currently when fans are banned due to the pandemic,

 

[East Level 2]

This looks like another stunt by the greedy **** teams to screw more money from UEFA or broadcasters. The national leagues should warn that any team signing up will be kicked out of their national league and will only be readmitted at level 5 when the money grabbing league goes gits up. I'll make a decision on attending when the details are published but I doubt it will go ahead.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

This will prob end in a compromise with a reorganisation of champs LG with seeded teams (inc the dirty dozen).

Hopefully not. Appeasement never works. It’s appeasement for 20 years that has brought us to this point. The prem etc need to sort this once and for all, fuck off to your super league or stay but no more calling the shots and pushing governing bodies around.

 

[1.618034]

Of course I would.

 

[01cravend]

How many players would leave the clubs because among other things they want international careers?
How much more will the clubs have to pay the players willing to stay?

Let the clubs leave, only be digging their own graves, interest will quickly dwindle due to how shit the concept is and with it the money disappears too. The clubs left behind will grow in their place, majority of fans jump to other teams and the football world keeps spinning.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

But they wouldn't give a toss if 5000 or 50000 fans turned up for a match, they don't need the gate receipts, it's all about the TV deals and sponsorship

Exactly. They could simply give 50,000 tickets away free and take the beer and burger money as a bonus.

 

[bondsman]

Football as we know it is over

VAR was the death knell this is the final nail

 

[chaddblue]

So where’s the announcement ?

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

This is a PR disaster for the club. It won't have any much, if any, support from fans and ultimately, without the fans it won't work.

The proposals ignore the essentially most exciting part of football: promotion, relegation and winning trophies. An invitation only league with no relegation goes against every single tenet of why league football is exciting. It's astonishing that they've not considered this. It shows that this isn't about sporting excellence, it's about money. It's about making more money than they currently can do and making so much money that it's almost impossible for "old PL" players to turn down.

This is bringing to a head the process which started with the PL. Prior to the PL, most clubs were run by well-meaning local men. Clubs that were once rooted and anchored in their local towns and cities became commodities that could be bought, sold and traded across the world. We've seen it perfectly how Swales, a local lad done well, has ended up being replaced by a disgraced ex-PM of Thailand and eventually by the Sheikh.

After the PL, the influx of money started to distort the game and when teams found they could raise significant amounts of money on the markets. I agree with Gary Neville that money in sport isn't a bad thing as such, but it's getting to be too much of a part of it. Let's be absolutely honest, it's absolutely impossible for anyone to break into the top 4 and stay there without a vast amount of money. It's been designed this way. Once you're in the CL every year, the money you get is vast and it allows you to effectively take a "free player" from outside the top 4.

Of course, the Sheikh has run the club immaculately and his investment has not only benefitted City fans but everyone in Manchester who's seen east Manchester regenerated. However, it also raises an important point: is a football club just the same as a company or is it something different - a cultural artefact.

I think we have lost sight of the fact that football clubs are not businesses. They are cultural artefacts handed down to us to treasure and pass on to our descendants.

Quite simply, the proposals are the fact that the people who own the clubs want even more money. They want to grab not just a national market but a European or international market. They are taking Manchester City out of Manchester and making it almost a franchise that is Manchester in name only. This is the same for United and Liverpool etc as well. Football clubs are not, primarily businesses, they are as important to countries as cathedrals, civic buildings, music, the NHS and BBC etc. They are based in the working people of this country. It's about time we realised this and I hope these dreadful proposals help to make people think about what a football club is.

I sincerely hope the club has a long, hard think about how the proposals have been received. I hope they realise it's a mistake.

Everything you have written is spot on - speaking as a fan.
But from a Club owners perspective yes football is a business and these owners clearly want to have a guarentee in protecting their investment to the detriment of the game as a whole. Not that they give a shit.

 

[Russian Hat]

Gutted if true. My saturdays have been spoilt in past by by the movement of matches, but have still supported my team . Now this it’s part of my life that will be eroded. Joke