Willy has to play in the Final

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I don't think the manager is to blame for the defending I mean we have over £100 million in defenders and cannot beat Leicester, stop a set play or score from a corner? At some point player responsibility comes into it. I do blame him for choosing an inept second keeper when we could have had a pick of some real gems.

I have come to two conclusions either Willy is simply not good enough or he is pawn for some dubious betting syndicate.
 
Haha.....Somehow this thread has reached 21 pages and developed into serious discussion,something the OP didn't intend.

I was open to suggestions!!

A lot of the thread has been about Joe being a better keeper than Willy. We all know that. Willy should play because he has helped to get us to Wembley and Pellers has promised him his starting place!
 
I don't think the manager is to blame for the defending I mean we have over £100 million in defenders and cannot beat Leicester, stop a set play or score from a corner? At some point player responsibility comes into it. I do blame him for choosing an inept second keeper when we could have had a pick of some real gems.

I have come to two conclusions either Willy is simply not good enough or he is pawn for some dubious betting syndicate.
But there is a distinct lack of organisation week-after-week and a distinct lack of understanding of what job each player is supposed to be doing and what jobs the players just to their right and left and just in front and just behind should be doing. This is what is leading to all these individual errors all the time. It's not just individuals doing the wrong things, it's a collective lack of preparation and understanding of roles across the whole squad leading from the manager.
 
I think it is almost certain that Willy will be gone in the summer

Valdes is nailed on to join our squad in the Summer. The rags will no doubt demand a transfer fee because it's us who want him!

I am hoping we go all out with a big big for DDG!
 
But could it just be that the players aren't quite as good as we think they are? We've all thought the squad has been great for 4-5 years. It's won two cups and to last day league titles. After all those years in the wilderness it's been fantastic, but if they're half as good as people think why have they not won it more easily?
Under Bob, supposedly much more savvy defensively, we were absolutely shocking in Europe. I'm not stating 'facts' just a couple of alternate opinions. I also think that Guardiola is probably a significant uplift but, if he gets through the Kiev tie, he will have made CL quarter finals with 3 different clubs. Disciplined, hard working, talented players who can follow instructions? Doesn't sound like our lads does it? You can laugh all you like, but I would much prefer him to not go anywhere near Chelsea next season, where he could easily become the first man to win the PL with two different clubs.
I think the squad is decent enough, one or two areas are lacking but I'd say it's comfortably the best in this country. I think we will find out in the next couple of years exactly how badly pellegrini has underperformed with a very good squad of players because I think we will win the league comfortably next season with guardiola assuming he can sort out Pellegrini's ridiculous defensive mess over the summer. Mancini improved Hughes' defensive mess noticeably within a few weeks so I'm hopeful.
 
But there is a distinct lack of organisation week-after-week and a distinct lack of understanding of what job each player is supposed to be doing and what jobs the players just to their right and left and just in front and just behind should be doing. This is what is leading to all these individual errors all the time. It's not just individuals doing the wrong things, it's a collective lack of preparation and understanding of roles across the whole squad leading from the manager.

But if you have defended for over a year at a professional level you should be able to head a bsll, tackle a player without commiting a foul and just know basic positional play? These are national team players who were embarrassed by teenagers. The youth showed more guts than these vet, that is not the managers responsibility.
 
I think the squad is decent enough, one or two areas are lacking but I'd say it's comfortably the best in this country. I think we will find out in the next couple of years exactly how badly pellegrini has underperformed with a very good squad of players because I think we will win the league comfortably next season with guardiola assuming he can sort out Pellegrini's ridiculous defensive mess over the summer. Mancini improved Hughes' defensive mess noticeably within a few weeks so I'm hopeful.
And you could well be right. I just think they've underachieved for four years, if they're as good as we all think. It would be interesting if Pep comes and very few players leave, whether we vastly improve.
 
I was open to suggestions!!

A lot of the thread has been about Joe being a better keeper than Willy. We all know that. Willy should play because he has helped to get us to Wembley and Pellers has promised him his starting place!

No room for sentiment in football. He should out the wishes of the 30k City fans spending hundreds of pounds to attend the final, and the millions around the world, over the fragile ego of one player who is clearly nowhere near the required standard.

Willy may well be upset if he doesn't play, but there will be thousands, if not millions of fans who will be upset if he does.
 
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