Wolves (H) Post-Match Thread

[crazyadi]

Worse than Norwich for me. Usually positive but can see Liverpool going 11 clear we go there in November. Defence from front to back is not right.

Fuck they will absolutely destroy us. Even the scum would beat us right now and thats tragic. On another day we just got beat 6-0 by fucking wolves!

 

[Phil1]

Eh?

Forum is full of wankers.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

I’m sorry, with the players we have, injuries shouldn’t be an excuse for losing 0-2 against wolves. When they could’ve scored about 4-5

What are you trying to get at here? Are you saying Pep isn’t all that great because he’s lost two games already?

 

[cookster]

Can see this being Pep's last season, you know already it's just going to be so inconsistent and he won't enjoy that one bit. That Norwich defeat should've set alarm bells ringing, but as others have said this was far more damaging. Seemed like a real defeatist attitude with that team today, worrying times ahead.

If you reads Peps book towards the end of his term at Barca, Mouriniho got under his skin and he started to over think things.

 

[oakiecokie]

In Laporte’s absence, Stones is just as undependable as Otamendi. Neither fill me with much confidence.

Maybe I’m being reactionary but I’d like to see Garcia and Foden start some PL games against ‘lesser’ sides.

Stones slows our game too much.

 

[chesterbells]

This was the issue. Wolves are happy with a point so can afford to employ the tactics of putting everyone behind the ball. How do you counter this? You can do the same and play a boring 0 0.
But if you're the team that needs a win you just have to put more men in their area (that's what she said).

In doing this you leave yourself vulnerable to the counter attack. You have to put every man in their half just to deal with how many players they have in the way.

Then they wait for a misplaced pass, which is likely given the amount of players they have in the box and they sucker punch you. It's not good football and it's hars to take but if you look back to the friendly in the Asia cup this manager tried EXACTLY the same tactics then and he has done it again.

You can't degend when all your players are in their half and they have players waiting to counter. You can, but then you have less players attacking their packed out box.

It's a game perfect for a Mournhio 0 0. But we need the points so we were punished .

Good post

 

[WallyA]

Liverpool have the advantage of playing the same players in the same positions for 3 years in a row, they know exactly who they are playing with and dont get injuries.

We rotate alot out of necessity for sure due to injuries and game time but Pep still has to be blamed here. He got the personnel and tactics wrong, and his inability to trust younger players like Foden or Angelino is becoming more and more frustrating.

 

[blueabdi]

Eh?

This.... Nothing serious the stat proves our team is the best, this will be sorted out soon don't lose hope

 

[Dobsy]

With a central defence of Laporte and Kompany we don't concede those chances and we end up controlling the game with more possession overall. That's the big difference I see this season.

Unfortunately I think the league is gone. It's simply not a title winning defence.

 

[Chi-town blues]

Missed the game today because of illness so my wife went on her own, she's just phoned to say if you've got to miss a game, this was the one.

We seemed like we were wading through treacle, no speed, no energy, no creativity! I can't understand it.

But if you had to look for one over arching reason, It's our formation and game plan, this one is on Pep.

There were world class players in sky blue on the pitch today, but you wouldn't have known it, but although there there were some poor performances and that contributed to the result, that's not why we lost.

Pep needs to sit in a darkened room with a bottle of whisky and reflect.

Sure pep does go in dark room and loop the shit he made with not taking Gundog off for Bernie.
But he is a human too

 

[Fame Monster]

Deserved to get beat. Well done Wolves. Pep had a shocker today.

I would rather see Ederson (or anyone in the squad) playing beside David Silva than Gundogan.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

The complete lack of perspective and understanding of the problem is amazing.

Against a team BUILT like Wolves: 9/10 man defence with a rabbit or two, we were always likely to find ourselves in a few one on ones at the back. However, they could have scored 5 on breakaways alone, let alone with their height from dead balls.

One of the problems, for me, is the lack of a Plan B player upfront when we revert to the cross,cross, cross in the latter stages.

We play by getting in behind the full back and cutting the ball across. We are supremely successful at that. To stop that today, they played deep and they put Traore against Sterling for the first 60 mins, then released him to attack us in the later stages.

Did anyone realize Traore had only scored one goal before today, and that was an age ago!!!

We were done on the counter attack, but, sadly, looked like we were going to need a defensive mistake to score today. They set up to nullify us and were successful. We were set up to expose ourselves at the back and were successful. The most crucial part of the game was that we didn’t score a goal and force Wolves to open up.

At 0-0, their game plan was rock solid.
At 0-1, WE are the ones that had to open up.
When it finally went to 0-2, the game had already pretty much ended...it just made it look worse.

So, where to go from here? Relax, get back out on the training pitch, and start looking at where we can attack teams that play this way, because everyone will try to play this way from here!

Some people are losing their shit. I would simply say they have been spoiled and THIS is what most of us have lived for 50 years...and without a world class team and manager!

 

[Stoned Rose]

Given the (excellent) standards we are used to, this season has been poor so far.

Half of the first 11 was ‘out’ today:

KDB
Sane
Mendy
Laporte
Stones

That’s the spine and the left side of the team simply not available.

That’s a lot to ‘carry’ in the premier league. These days you simply do not get away with having so many starters missing.

Imo that reduces us from a title winning side to a side who’d finish 4th.

A few on here have said that expectations need to be lowered this season due to injuries to very significant players.

I think that’s pretty sensible judging by what I’ve seen so far.

 

[lazza10]

do you think any managers could have done what pep did with man city since he came here?

Peps the best in the world, with world class players.

 

[simon23]

Do you honestly think any team can keep up the intensity for a 3rd straight season? impossible

scousers have - we keep saying they willburn out but they dont...get away with it on the injury front as well

 

[Josh_D]

There will be overreactions, disappointment, and even flapping.

Nonetheless, we all (besides the lurkers) support one team in Manchester. They didn’t have the best game but it wouldn’t be City if we didn’t piss on the parade of everyone rooting for the dippers to win the league.

Regardless, not the best performamce. Gundy and Silva, just doesn’t work. Gundy ended up just coasting in the second half with Rodri on the charge instead. Aguero didn’t get a smidge today. Cancelo was good besides the one or two bad passes or tackles. Otamendi scares me wholeheartedly. Dinho did the best he could today. It wasn’t a good performance collectively. Some shaking up needs to happen.

 

[Zenmanc]

All in for Champs League.

Buy a CB in January and get Sane back fit for the business end.

Yeah, let's give up on the league... I think you're wearing the wrong color of Manchester shirt.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Pep owes us nothing after the last two seasons, and whilst it wont make me happy, I will at least accept not winning the league this year. Indeed I would accept wining nothing, "can't win everything" etc.

But the manager DOES owe the players a fair crack of the whip. Foden for Gundo and one of the young CBs for Otamendi for certain. If he continues to pick Ota and Gundo whilst leaving Garcia or HB in nowhere land and continues to insult Foden's intelligence I'm going to get increasingly pissed off.

Early days yet, league not over etc, but we really should be working towards the next generation this season. If we're not going to win the league, fair enough so long as we see a little bit of the future on the pitch. I don't want to see another few hundred million spunked on CBs whilst we havent yet given the young lads any chances and if I was Foden I would be demanding a move if it gets to easter and I hvent been given a run in the side. Not a loan, a transfer.

Pep owes us nothing, hes given us enough memories and records to last 20 seasons, but he owes the club and its players a fair chance to play.

This is absolutely spot on. Two seasons of being the greatest team these isles have ever seen was bound to come to an end at some point. Whilst never conceding the league, I think circumstances are such that we have an opportunity to bed in the next generation without doing too much damage.

As or Liverpool, the amount they've spent you'd expect them to be winning the league if we're not at the races so more good luck to them. We need to concentrate on our own affairs.

 

[Phil1]

Disgusting.

Pep picking that midfield was criminal.

Almost as criminal as not replacing Vinny in summer.

Otamendi a disgrace. Actually, all of them a disgrace.

Do you think he should be arrested for all those criminal acts? How long do you think he’ll serve?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Nice to see the trolls are already on claiming that Klopp is better than Pep.

Make no mistake, if Liverpool do win the title this season, it will be entirely because our performance dropped off, not because they got anywhere near our levels of the last two seasons.