Wolves (H) - Post-Match Thread

[bluemanc16]

Can't believe the attitude of your fans.

We all saw the Milner disgrace at Anfield when you were cheated. You were calling the Premier League corrupt then, so is it or not? The reality is that there's a pecking order and you're below Liverpool, so you get done against them, quite regularly may I add, but you're ahead of us, so we get done against you. I don't believe Moss cost us a point because I still think a team like you probably would've scored but the reality is we were cheated from being 0-0 with 25 to play. Cheated. That's without getting into the ridiculous first yellow for Raul.

As for your view on our anti-football. It's a load of rubbish. Many teams play like it against you because you're so much better, because you have the best manager in the world and the best squad thanks to the resources you have.

The idea that we are worse than anyone else is a joke. I read a comment on Twitter saying Palace had a go and won fairly. They didn't really. 32% possession and 3 shots on target was their 'having a go', when they had to play 45 minutes against ten men.

Similarly, the idea that we played better football under Nuno is rubbish. It's the same, you're just influenced by the score.

The issue with you lot here is the hypocrisy. I just looked at your head-to-head with United before you were 'good'. A 0-0 at Old Trafford, November 2004. Remember it? Well, if you don't the match report says 'City found it hard to break out of their half' and 'offered little of an attacking threat'. Oh, and you came 8th that season, so you clearly weren't a bad side either.

As for the play-acting, what's your issues here. There seems to be a problem with Saiss. I couldn't tell but from the away end, high up, it didn't look much but I believe he was poked in the eye. Clearly, he exaggerated but he wasn't defending our corner as a result, so it was a big risk. You benefited from that situation in the sense we lost a key defensive aerial threat for a corner.

We committed five fouls in that game, you committed 12. Again, you committed twice the number of fouls than us, so how does that fit your narrative?

By the way, I'm not hear to defend everything about us. We've notably time wasted more since Brentford did it to us in September and I don't agree with it, I just can't grasp your hypocrisy. The diving was worse, or as bad at least, from you on Saturday. The cynicism was evidently worse from you, it's remarkable that you committed more fouls given the possession. We clearly time-wasted and were delighted to be drawing, so we were poor in that sense, but it's pretty obvious as to why.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season, I genuinely mean that, every Wolves fan I know would prefer City winning the league to the scousers and laugh when you batter United. Also, Guardiola is the best coach around in my opinion and the football you play is incredible.

I just expect better from your fans as you're starting to turn into the scousers you hate, with the whining and arrogance. Considering you've been where we are, you know how it is as a mid-table side going against the elite and the reality is that we lost 1-0 to one of the worst decisions you will ever see (from VAR not Moss), so there's bound to be frustration.

you make some good points, if there is perceived arrogance by some of our fans then you can be assured it's in the minority because every City fan I know goes to a match hoping for a win but never expects a win, when you have endured the pain it ensures you stay grounded. John Moss should never referee a top flight game again, I said straight away that VAR would over rule the penalty but once again it sides with the referee even though it was wrong

 

[JGL07]

Can't believe the attitude of your fans.

We all saw the Milner disgrace at Anfield when you were cheated. You were calling the Premier League corrupt then, so is it or not? The reality is that there's a pecking order and you're below Liverpool, so you get done against them, quite regularly may I add, but you're ahead of us, so we get done against you. I don't believe Moss cost us a point because I still think a team like you probably would've scored but the reality is we were cheated from being 0-0 with 25 to play. Cheated. That's without getting into the ridiculous first yellow for Raul.

As for your view on our anti-football. It's a load of rubbish. Many teams play like it against you because you're so much better, because you have the best manager in the world and the best squad thanks to the resources you have.

The idea that we are worse than anyone else is a joke. I read a comment on Twitter saying Palace had a go and won fairly. They didn't really. 32% possession and 3 shots on target was their 'having a go', when they had to play 45 minutes against ten men.

Similarly, the idea that we played better football under Nuno is rubbish. It's the same, you're just influenced by the score.

The issue with you lot here is the hypocrisy. I just looked at your head-to-head with United before you were 'good'. A 0-0 at Old Trafford, November 2004. Remember it? Well, if you don't the match report says 'City found it hard to break out of their half' and 'offered little of an attacking threat'. Oh, and you came 8th that season, so you clearly weren't a bad side either.

As for the play-acting, what's your issues here. There seems to be a problem with Saiss. I couldn't tell but from the away end, high up, it didn't look much but I believe he was poked in the eye. Clearly, he exaggerated but he wasn't defending our corner as a result, so it was a big risk. You benefited from that situation in the sense we lost a key defensive aerial threat for a corner.

We committed five fouls in that game, you committed 12. Again, you committed twice the number of fouls than us, so how does that fit your narrative?

By the way, I'm not hear to defend everything about us. We've notably time wasted more since Brentford did it to us in September and I don't agree with it, I just can't grasp your hypocrisy. The diving was worse, or as bad at least, from you on Saturday. The cynicism was evidently worse from you, it's remarkable that you committed more fouls given the possession. We clearly time-wasted and were delighted to be drawing, so we were poor in that sense, but it's pretty obvious as to why.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season, I genuinely mean that, every Wolves fan I know would prefer City winning the league to the scousers and laugh when you batter United. Also, Guardiola is the best coach around in my opinion and the football you play is incredible.

I just expect better from your fans as you're starting to turn into the scousers you hate, with the whining and arrogance. Considering you've been where we are, you know how it is as a mid-table side going against the elite and the reality is that we lost 1-0 to one of the worst decisions you will ever see (from VAR not Moss), so there's bound to be frustration.

I have to say that I thought that Wolves played a very cynical game. I am by no means anti-Wolves. I was born in East Shropshire and Dad was a Wolves supporter. I often went to Molineux at Christmas. I do recall the great Wolves team of the 1950 with Billy Wright, Johnny Hancocks, Jimmy Mullen, Ron Flowers, Bert Williams, etc.

I could live with the Wolves side under Nuno. They very much a counter attacking team but did counter with pace. The current team just seem to be negative and cynical (along with one being a bit mental).

Wolves got what they deserved on Saturday. Nothing!

 

[wolvesfan1]

I have to say that I thought that Wolves played a very cynical game. I am by no means anti-Wolves. I was born in East Shropshire and Dad was a Wolves supporter. I often went to Molineux at Christmas. I do recall the great Wolves team of the 1950 with Billy Wright, Johnny Hancocks, Jimmy Mullen, Ron Flowers, Bert Williams, etc.

I could live with the Wolves side under Nuno. They very much a counter attacking team but did counter with pace. The current team just seem to be negative and cynical (along with one being a bit mental).

Wolves got what they deserved on Saturday. Nothing!

It wasn't that bad if we committed five fouls, was it? You committed 12, with at least a few of those on Traore designed to stop counter-attacks.

By the way, I have no problem with this, it's football. But, that's my point, it's football, and you're moaning at us.

We had 24% possession and two shots on target when we beat you 2-0 away. We had one shot on target when we lost 4-1 last year.

It's exactly the same now as under Nuno, and it's a decent way of playing against you to be honest, away from home especially.

I'm sure you'll all be saying how great Leeds are when you beat them by three or four on Wednesday and that they try and play the 'proper' way. (unless they have a man sent off like last year and have to defend non-stop) What good does that do them?

Yep, we did deserve nothing on the balance of play but so does every team against you technically because you have better players thanks to your billionaire owners who have also employed the best manager around. So, we try and make it difficult, and we did, to the extent you needed VAR to award you a penalty for nothing.

Again, you've been in our shoes against your biggest rivals so you know what it's like.

 

[Gingers Dad]

They are a very average side playing against one if not the best club side in the world.

I don't understand why some of our fans expect a club to roll over and play to our strengths.

Football is a results business, managers/players jobs depend upon it.

Take the timekeeping out of the hands of the referee. Have a clock that is stopped when the ball is out of play. The fans will get their moneys worth and the better teams will win more often. Shit house managers like the one at Wolves will be out of a job anyway

 

[Gingers Dad]

May I offer my views as a Wolves fan in peace? Then I will fuck off (:-.

Wolves do have a fundamental problem which is driving our own fans nuts - we do not have any attacking central midfielders....we have Neves, Dendonkey (who is basically a central defender turned midfielder), and 35 year Joao Moutinho whose legs have gone but still battles manfully. I genuinely don't think it is the current managers preferred style as he is known for being an attacking coach, but we just do not have the players who are mobile enough, and no new players (other than a couple of loans) have been brought in since he was appointed so he is in effect playing Nuno-ball still. We were seconds away from acquiring Sanches from Lille in the summer but withdrew due to his injury record. But such a player would transform us if fit, but we have known this for nearly 2 years so its our own fault really. We all wonder whether the lack of new players is down to it now being a bit political in that Chinese Govt are now saying 'no expenditure' to western football owners due to the political climate between China and the West. Nevertheless we are still hoping for a January purchase to dramatically change our formation as we have such a small squad, also the likes of Jonny, Neto, Boly are key players who are long term injured. Our bench yesterday was unplayed teenagers mainly. But I think the manager came with a defensive plan undoubtedly, I suppose it is anti-football but if it continues the team it will hurt more than anyone else is ourselves WWFC. But the counter point is that until Jimenez got himself stupidly sent off, I felt we were doing quite well, though City I felt,would probably score sooner or later with long range shooting. But how can you match City with their fabulous range of players? If you take them on at their own game you will get slaughtered. Furthermore, Traore is an enigma, he barely moves until on the ball then he explodes, but he doesnt seem to have the ability to move off the ball in anticipation of moves, in contrast, every City player is always moving around and it is wonderful to watch their flair and movement.

Time wasting? I'm not sure, possibly yes slowing the game down, but the Kilman- Neves injury for 7 minutes (?)was totally unintended and Sterling did catch Saiss in the eye as he has that uniquely weird running style where he sticks his arms out high (if you slow down the footage you can see he clearly does). But Saiss is the one Wolves player who goes down easily I admit, and I don't like that. Re: Jimenez, he doesnt even catch the city defender to get booked (if you look at the footage) but at that very point City fans were getting on the back of John Moss so he very unfairly booked Raul (in my opinion) due to fan pressure (we all do it), but he was then stupid beyond extreme to block the free kick and in that respect deserved the sending off. The other key decision was the penalty, it clearly hit his torso but I'm not sure whether its possible to tell whether it also hits his underarm in that moment. He was asking for it having his arm raised I suppose. Either way, City deserved the win undoubtedly, even though not firing on all cyclinders, even though I feel we were hard done by on key decisions. But we all see it our own way. Sterling, in our eyes, was constantly diving and going down too easily looking for decisions and getting at the ref, but you will probably feel he was being fouled.

Undoubtedly, if Wolves continue like this then our reputation will be deserved, so I hope we do something about it in January because its pretty dire but then I love the effort of all of them and defensively Kilman, Coady, Saiss (who cost a 'combined' £5m) are doing wonders and are each brilliant lads. But Neves needs more mobile players around him in midfield. Love Neves to bits, tho he deserves a move to a bigger club sadly, now our financial tap seems to have been turned off in the past 2 years. Oh well we had 3 great seasons.

Ok, I will feck off now, best of luck, I know some Wolves fans can be one-eyed, biased twats (aren't we all), but 99% of us would genuinely very much prefer City to win the Premierships than either of those hateful clubs wearing red.

Fck me I was bored shitless at the match on Saturday but never once did it cross my mind it was partly because of the Chinese Government's foreign policy! Well I suppose everyday is a school day

 

[Gingers Dad]

It wasn't that bad if we committed five fouls, was it? You committed 12, with at least a few of those on Traore designed to stop counter-attacks.

By the way, I have no problem with this, it's football. But, that's my point, it's football, and you're moaning at us.

We had 24% possession and two shots on target when we beat you 2-0 away. We had one shot on target when we lost 4-1 last year.

It's exactly the same now as under Nuno, and it's a decent way of playing against you to be honest, away from home especially.

I'm sure you'll all be saying how great Leeds are when you beat them by three or four on Wednesday and that they try and play the 'proper' way. (unless they have a man sent off like last year and have to defend non-stop) What good does that do them?

Yep, we did deserve nothing on the balance of play but so does every team against you technically because you have better players thanks to your billionaire owners who have also employed the best manager around. So, we try and make it difficult, and we did, to the extent you needed VAR to award you a penalty for nothing.

Again, you've been in our shoes against your biggest rivals so you know what it's like.

your posts are as boring as your team

 

[oddfellows]

It wasn't that bad if we committed five fouls, was it? You committed 12, with at least a few of those on Traore designed to stop counter-attacks.

By the way, I have no problem with this, it's football. But, that's my point, it's football, and you're moaning at us.

We had 24% possession and two shots on target when we beat you 2-0 away. We had one shot on target when we lost 4-1 last year.

It's exactly the same now as under Nuno, and it's a decent way of playing against you to be honest, away from home especially.

I'm sure you'll all be saying how great Leeds are when you beat them by three or four on Wednesday and that they try and play the 'proper' way. (unless they have a man sent off like last year and have to defend non-stop) What good does that do them?

Yep, we did deserve nothing on the balance of play but so does every team against you technically because you have better players thanks to your billionaire owners who have also employed the best manager around. So, we try and make it difficult, and we did, to the extent you needed VAR to award you a penalty for nothing.

Again, you've been in our shoes against your biggest rivals so you know what it's like.

They say things even out. The Kilman incident was a clear pen but wasn't given. Moutinhno wasn't a pen but was given so justice prevailed.

 

[manclad]

They say things even out. The Kilman incident was a clear pen but wasn't given. Moutinhno wasn't a pen but was given so justice prevailed.

"What goes around, comes around"!!!

 

[Gingers Dad]

They say things even out. The Kilman incident was a clear pen but wasn't given. Moutinhno wasn't a pen but was given so justice prevailed.

Seldom do they even out in the same game or even against the same opposition. The Wolves fans appear to be very blinkered towards what their team "got away with" during the match. Moss is a shite referee but I thought he was equally shite to both sides. I reckon both managers will have given him low marks.

 

[Octavian]

Can't believe the attitude of your fans.

We all saw the Milner disgrace at Anfield when you were cheated. You were calling the Premier League corrupt then, so is it or not? The reality is that there's a pecking order and you're below Liverpool, so you get done against them, quite regularly may I add, but you're ahead of us, so we get done against you. I don't believe Moss cost us a point because I still think a team like you probably would've scored but the reality is we were cheated from being 0-0 with 25 to play. Cheated. That's without getting into the ridiculous first yellow for Raul.

As for your view on our anti-football. It's a load of rubbish. Many teams play like it against you because you're so much better, because you have the best manager in the world and the best squad thanks to the resources you have.

The idea that we are worse than anyone else is a joke. I read a comment on Twitter saying Palace had a go and won fairly. They didn't really. 32% possession and 3 shots on target was their 'having a go', when they had to play 45 minutes against ten men.

Similarly, the idea that we played better football under Nuno is rubbish. It's the same, you're just influenced by the score.

The issue with you lot here is the hypocrisy. I just looked at your head-to-head with United before you were 'good'. A 0-0 at Old Trafford, November 2004. Remember it? Well, if you don't the match report says 'City found it hard to break out of their half' and 'offered little of an attacking threat'. Oh, and you came 8th that season, so you clearly weren't a bad side either.

As for the play-acting, what's your issues here. There seems to be a problem with Saiss. I couldn't tell but from the away end, high up, it didn't look much but I believe he was poked in the eye. Clearly, he exaggerated but he wasn't defending our corner as a result, so it was a big risk. You benefited from that situation in the sense we lost a key defensive aerial threat for a corner.

We committed five fouls in that game, you committed 12. Again, you committed twice the number of fouls than us, so how does that fit your narrative?

By the way, I'm not hear to defend everything about us. We've notably time wasted more since Brentford did it to us in September and I don't agree with it, I just can't grasp your hypocrisy. The diving was worse, or as bad at least, from you on Saturday. The cynicism was evidently worse from you, it's remarkable that you committed more fouls given the possession. We clearly time-wasted and were delighted to be drawing, so we were poor in that sense, but it's pretty obvious as to why.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season, I genuinely mean that, every Wolves fan I know would prefer City winning the league to the scousers and laugh when you batter United. Also, Guardiola is the best coach around in my opinion and the football you play is incredible.

I just expect better from your fans as you're starting to turn into the scousers you hate, with the whining and arrogance. Considering you've been where we are, you know how it is as a mid-table side going against the elite and the reality is that we lost 1-0 to one of the worst decisions you will ever see (from VAR not Moss), so there's bound to be frustration.

You weren’t cheated out if anything, we had a stone wall penalty for handball turned down in the first half. Jiminez was booked for a tug back on the shirt, we had two of the same challenge booked just prior, it’s routine.

A point on the negative play from you. I don’t expect everyone to turn up trying to play us at our own game, I expect 11 men behind the ball, I expect a bit of time wasting to disrupt our play and I expect the physicality we get nearly every week.

What I don’t expect is the level of all of the above Wolves did on Saturday, 3 times in just the first half to your players clearly feign injury, constantly going down to delay delay delay. Your lad at the back got a serious head injury and I was glad to see him back up but the rest of the injuries were nonsense. Traore must be a cardboard cut out of a big bloke, as every time one of ours went near him he went over.

We see that style every week but I’ve never seen it as bad as Saturday in all the years I’ve been going to City, and I truly mean that. I’ve never had anything against Wolves, don’t mind your fans when I’ve been around them, quite liked your side under the last guy. But Saturday really was a complete joke, I’ve not seen time wasting that bad before at 0-0 in the first half.

you mention that game against United but we didn’t dive and pretend to be injured throughout the whole game.