Woolwich killing

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Perhaps non radicals should start to report the radicals. Sorry if this sounds off, but i am at the moment in a place that common sense and values are wrestling with disgust and anger.

They do however its not that easy, as Ireland has shown us, in my experience of that region, the majority wanted peace years before it came, they didnt speak up or report members of the IRA, for fear of being shunned in the community or worse repercussions.

This isn't Ireland or anything like it.

Its the same in that terrorists are living within a largely peaceful community though.

 

[blue 68]

Like most I am completely appalled by these recent events, angry and confused. If the Muslim communities in Britain don't weed out their own extremeists then god knows how the government are suppose to do it.
I am concerned by the overall lack of integration into the British way of life by large Muslim communities and the speed and size of their growth over the past 20 years especially. As an reasonable Citizen I'm not calling for retribution but my concerns grow and my trust dwindles.

A Muslim friend told me once he actually reported his local convenience store manager (also a Muslim) to Police a day after 911 for saying to him "one to us yesterday" and I am proud to call him a friend. We need more of this type of thing, it's not being traitor to Islam, simple common sense.

 

[didactic]

Yes but "your government" and "our troops" also show that he really has no clue about what he is going on about

By your government he is talking about the combined forces that are in Muslim nations. See the biggest gripe Muslims have is the stationing of troops near Mecca which is sacrilegious to them. This is not allowed by their teachers hence why he was speaking in those terms. As a Muslim his beliefs teach him to fight for the defense of the holy land. But what they did is not allowed as it was not on the battle field. You have to understand there are British and American troops in almost every Muslim country. This is not allowed but unfortunately most Muslim countries have oil.

Not allowed by who?
If you believe that Islam has the ultimate authority then you have to disregard the rest of man kind.

Ultimately, Islam must police itself and how it's followers behave. Anyone who subscribes to its teachings must also take responsibility for how it is practiced. In the UK Islam is only one of many faiths and those who choose to live in the UK and follow Islam must do so in a manner compatible with those who do not. This means actively preventing the preaching of extreme views not compatible with the UK and taking responsibility for those who chose to express those views.

Failure to do so will only further alienate the Muslim faith and lead to more heightened opposition from the rest of the UK population. Some of whom will be as stupid as those who have tried and the few who have succeeded to terrorise the UK in the name of their religion.

How about by law? Most of these occupations are/were illegal to begin with and performed under false guises.

The thing is these actions were always going to be provocative just like people insist on igniting the flames by drawing pictures of the prophet and mocking the religion. When they react its "they are vicious animals". What throw fuel on an open flame?

 

[talkativesprout]

They do however its not that easy, as Ireland has shown us, in my experience of that region, the majority wanted peace years before it came, they didnt speak up or report members of the IRA, for fear of being shunned in the community or worse repercussions.

This isn't Ireland or anything like it.

Its the same in that terrorists are living within a largely peaceful community though.

It was a a war against the British government and some other in house religious nonsense.

They objected to in the main about our continued presence in an area invaded by a daft monarch and clearly had a end, fuck off from Ireland and we will stop.

The Jihad is a war against the west, where do you suggest the west fucks off to?

 

[dazdon]

When they react its "they are vicious animals". What throw fuel on an open flame?

But those animals who decapitated that fella yesterday are animals are they not?

 

[didactic]

Aye, and the tins went around "For the boys" in many Irish pubs an clubs, then a lot of the "Innocent majority" put their f*cking money in.

This is true^^^^ I have been in pubs in Kilburn London when such tins have come around, and theres even been an 'admission fee' on Friday nights 'for the cause'

Rubbish Muslims do not collect money in pubs can we stop the lies. In fact practicing Muslims stay as far away from pubs as possible.

 

[talkativesprout]

Aye, and the tins went around "For the boys" in many Irish pubs an clubs, then a lot of the "Innocent majority" put their f*cking money in.

This is true^^^^ I have been in pubs in Kilburn London when such tins have come around, and theres even been an 'admission fee' on Friday nights 'for the cause'

Rubbish Muslims do not collect money in pubs can we stop the lies. In fact practicing Muslims stay as far away from pubs as possible.

Stay focussed DiDI not all nutters are muzzers, a lot are religious though. He is talking about the Irish funcking idiots as well

 

[ancoats]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc[/youtube]

I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older y'all people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us following the wrong direction
Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids want to act like what they see in the cinemas

Whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness and equality
Instead of spreading love
We spreading animosity
Lack of understanding
Leading us away from unity
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
It's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep our faith alive 'till love is found

 

[Josh Blue]

When they react its "they are vicious animals". What throw fuel on an open flame?

But those animals who decapitated that fella yesterday are animals are they not?

Everyone has animals pal <a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8933193/British-soldier-jailed-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... n-boy.html</a>

 

[rickmcfc]

Like most I am completely appalled by these recent events, angry and confused. If the Muslim communities in Britain don't weed out their own extremeists then god knows how the government are suppose to do it.
I am concerned by the overall lack of integration into the British way of life by large Muslim communities and the speed and size of their growth over the past 20 years especially. As an reasonable Citizen I'm not calling for retribution but my concerns grow and my trust dwindles.

A Muslim friend told me once he actually reported his local convenience store manager (also a Muslim) to Police a day after 911 for saying to him "one to us yesterday" and I am proud to call him a friend. We need more of this type of thing, it's not being traitor to Islam, simple common sense.

Very well said.