Woolwich killing

[dazdon]

In this instance mate that guy had a proper london accent, I could be horribly wrong but I'd be amazed if he was brought up from birth as a muslim.

He's a convert it's been reported.

 

[Anonymous]

Fucking horrible images/video. My own feelings are that any individual sick enough to do this would be the same sick individual regardless of whatever religion he followed.

i disagree with the last bit pal.

it stems from everything since his/their birth. these people are brainwashed into extremist islam.

see that doesn't really stack up when the chief culprit seems to have been a convert later in life

true but he's obviously had influence and without religious influence this probably wouldn't have happened.

if he hadn't have got into being a muslim this wouldn't have happened. im not saying all muslims are like that 99% are peaceful but it's still a fact.

 

[andyblue87]

This thread has just turned into a who killed the most pissing contest? and you're probably better starting around 700 AD for more accurate numbers!

Agreed and you can go around in circles forever with that shit! I personally believe that the West has a lot to answer for due to it's foreign policy. Everytime these desperate animals do something like this we're called to be strong and unite and be defiant, the Govt ( whoever is in power ) never address why this happens essentially all we do is potter along, change nothing and wait for the next sickening incident!

I'm probably going to get stick for this but I was driving and heard several Islamic groups and leaders in England have condemned the incident. Do they really need to do that? Is that not divisive? I'm a Caucasian male, most serial killers fit my demographic do I need to condemn their behaviour, do I heck it's a given. It just seems everytime something like this happens the divide increases and the country doesn't really 'unite'

Well said.

Most white male serial killers don't kill in the name of being a white male, there is a very big difference. Whilst most will not suggest these acts are condoned by the Islamic faith, some idiots think otherwise so maybe it is with this in mind that they distance themselves and their beliefs from such acts.

 

[squirtyflower]

i disagree with the last bit pal.

it stems from everything since his/their birth. these people are brainwashed into extremist islam.

see that doesn't really stack up when the chief culprit seems to have been a convert later in life

true but he's obviously had influence and without religious influence this probably wouldn't have happened.

if he hadn't have got into being a muslim this wouldn't have happened. im saying all muslims are like that 99% are peaceful but it's still a fact.

but that isn't what you said though
i highlighted it for you to remind you

he's evil regardless of his religion, which was Christianity before Islam

 

[tommyhair]

Sounds like they knew about these guys, should have locked'em up a while back, F***s

 

[Anonymous]

see that doesn't really stack up when the chief culprit seems to have been a convert later in life

true but he's obviously had influence and without religious influence this probably wouldn't have happened.

if he hadn't have got into being a muslim this wouldn't have happened. im saying all muslims are like that 99% are peaceful but it's still a fact.

but that isn't what you said though
i highlighted it for you to remind you

he's evil regardless of his religion, which was Christianity before Islam

fair point.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Sounds like they knew about these guys, should have locked'em up a while back, F***s

There is a big difference between being 'on the radar' and doing enough to be locked up

 

[oman0115]

Agreed and you can go around in circles forever with that shit! I personally believe that the West has a lot to answer for due to it's foreign policy. Everytime these desperate animals do something like this we're called to be strong and unite and be defiant, the Govt ( whoever is in power ) never address why this happens essentially all we do is potter along, change nothing and wait for the next sickening incident!

I'm probably going to get stick for this but I was driving and heard several Islamic groups and leaders in England have condemned the incident. Do they really need to do that? Is that not divisive? I'm a Caucasian male, most serial killers fit my demographic do I need to condemn their behaviour, do I heck it's a given. It just seems everytime something like this happens the divide increases and the country doesn't really 'unite'

Well said.

Most white male serial killers don't kill in the name of being a white male, there is a very big difference. Whilst most will not suggest these acts are condoned by the Islamic faith, some idiots think otherwise so maybe it is with this in mind that they distance themselves and their beliefs from such acts.

I hear your point and if that is the case i.e distancing themselves to avoid the wrath of a few idiots, how can they truly feel accepted and integrated into our society? The Muslim community should feel no more pressured to apologise for the minority of idiots masquerading as Religious freedom fighters, than we should for our Government acting as the same in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else we are currently occupying.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Victim was a 20 yr old from Langley in Middleton apparently.

News crews everywhere.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

Everyone has animals pal <a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8933193/British-soldier-jailed-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... n-boy.html</a>

So that's one death. How many have lost their lives by Muslim Extremist's in the west over the past 15 years? It's in the thousands.

And the number of Muslims who have died at the hands of the West in the last 15 years is in the millions. More people die in police custody every year than at the hands of terrorists.

The problem with attempting to fudge figures is it only works when preaching to the uneducated and those without the ability to research.

Its not terrorism when we do it, its collateral damage. We're there to spread freedom and democracy, and liberate people from tyrants.