Woolwich killing

[Kippax.]

RIP Lee x

 

[Pigeonho]

Makes it worse when you see how young he is and who he's been taken away from.
Heart goes out to all his family.
RIP

 

[kaz7]

R.I.P Lee

 

[samharris]

R.I.P. Lee, god bless.x

 

[andyblue87]

Well said.

Most white male serial killers don't kill in the name of being a white male, there is a very big difference. Whilst most will not suggest these acts are condoned by the Islamic faith, some idiots think otherwise so maybe it is with this in mind that they distance themselves and their beliefs from such acts.

I hear your point and if that is the case i.e distancing themselves to avoid the wrath of a few idiots, how can they truly feel accepted and integrated into our society? The Muslim community should feel no more pressured to apologise for the minority of idiots masquerading as Religious freedom fighters, than we should for our Government acting as the same in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else we are currently occupying.

I am not suggesting your wrong but the fact is in many cases they are not integrated into society and are often not by choice. This is not solely the fault of any given party but it is sometimes the case that muslim communities and other minorities distance themselves from other communities (There are many reasons for this and I am not solely blaming religion).
The issue with this is when people then go on to say they did such acts in the name of such a religion, some will obviously look towards that community as a whole rather than sole individuals within it. Whilst this is not right, the fact that there is often such clear divides between these communities and others means there is an inevitable case of generalising and stereo-typing from a minority. Whilst people shouldn't feel the need to come out and seperate themselves from these acts, it can act as a catalyst to change the opinions of some and show a united front against such acts.

 

[FuZzY]

So so sad.

My heart goes out to his family and friends.

Rest In Peace Lee

 

[didactic]

Wasnt calling you a liar, just questioning it as its the first ive heard about it.
Il take a look

Naw never said you were pal we are debating and discussing like adults. Just making you understand that there are two sides to every tale and our media makes an effort just to keep feeding us only one.

I can show you worse videos but they are too graphic but there are videos of soldiers driving around shooting at civilians for fun. You can see the people falling and hear the soldiers laughing and making jokes. Its not hard to find this footage if you look.

-- Thu May 23, 2013 4:13 pm --

Research? What parrotting something you fucking googled on
the internet. That research?

Better than parroting something I read in NF digest of fabricated figures to paint a biased image of what is really going on. 9/11 was the biggest terror attack in history 3000 died. More than 300 000 civilians were dead in Iraq after the first few months. So pray tell where all all these millions of innocent people dying at the hands of these evil terrorists?

Bollocks! Youi choose the imformation you research and extract the information that suits your opinion. In this case trying to justify what happened in Woolwich. Not sure what the NF remark is about, I'm certainly not a member nor do I read any of their material.

Do you mean "you choose the information"? How exactly can I extract what I want from numbers? And kindly show me where I have justified what happened? I am pointing out catalysts reasons why these people feel aggrieved you on the other hand seem to point out to the fact that its because they are foreign and have different beliefs. You completely ignore that while everyone else ran a white woman, a black woman and a mixed woman not only talked down the killers but sat with the man who had been murdered offering what help they could. How is that for failed multiculturalism?

 

[mackenzie]

I thought the debate on BBC news was interesting; the one about how the Internet is allowing evil bastards to radicalise those like the two yesterday.
What is a great invention and communication tool is also allowing evil organisations to reach out and poison weak and unstable minds.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

R.I.P

Where did we change as a society so that the murder of one person causes more fear, outrage, changes in law, and general insanity than our parents and grand parents generation. They were hearing of thousands dying on a daily basis. The country did not go insane then so why are we seemingly doing that now?

 

[MSP]

Re: Woolich killing

I wonder what the headlines would have been if it was two white lads that beheaded a muslim?

And the aftermath and protests?

Strange country we live in...

Stabbed to death 3 weeks ago basically in front of his house while coming back from evening pray in the nearby mosque in Birmingham.

Got two articles in DailyMail. None outside of UK while I can read 3-4 about Woolwich on any local or non-local portal worldwide. Unfortunately for him, he was not a hero who served his country occupying another one thousands miles from it, he was just retired 76-years old baker.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316958/Small-Heath-stabbing-Birmingham-pensioner-Mohammed-Saleem-Chaudry-killed-way-evening-prayers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ayers.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318229/Muhammed-Saleem-Chaudhry-murder-racially-motivated-CCTV-showing-white-man-running-away-released.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eased.html</a>

When Western societies and hypocrite muslim hating cun.ts from this thread and thousands of others written around the world today start to treat muslim lives and blood half as expensive as non-muslim ones than there might be chance there would be less or no at all idiots like those two that made a Woolwich murder.

Until then, morons like two of those in Woolwich will always have excuse for their acts. And we'll see them on regular basis.