Woolwich killing

[andyblue87]

You seriously think that if we pulled out of Afghanistan and other countries that we have been involved in, that these nutters, murderers and terrorists would stop?

I just can't believe that you think that will happen, it won't.
I don't profess to know the answer but if we become lax, and soft, these animals will take full advantage and you'll see a lot more of this sort of event on our streets.

We weren't in any country when 9/11 happened

Yes we were, we are always in certain countries even when its not all out war. Which is one of the beefs these guys have they want US/UK military bases out their countries.

Whilst at the same time calling for Sharia Law in these countries, hypocritical no?

 

[pominoz]

You seriously think that if we pulled out of Afghanistan and other countries that we have been involved in, that these nutters, murderers and terrorists would stop?

I just can't believe that you think that will happen, it won't.
I don't profess to know the answer but if we become lax, and soft, these animals will take full advantage and you'll see a lot more of this sort of event on our streets.

We weren't in any country when 9/11 happened

Yes we were, we are always in certain countries even when its not all out war. Which is one of the beefs these guys have they want US/UK military bases out their countries.

From what i can gather that is just an excuse for their wider goals.

"On March 11, 2005, Al-Quds Al-Arabi published extracts from Saif al-Adel's document "Al Quaeda's Strategy to the Year 2020". Abdel Bari Atwan summarizes this strategy as comprising five stages to rid the Ummah from all forms of oppression:

1.Provoke the United States and the West into invading a Muslim country by staging a massive attack or string of attacks on U.S. soil that results in massive civilian casualties.
2.Incite local resistance to occupying forces.
3.Expand the conflict to neighboring countries, and engage the U.S. and its allies in a long war of attrition.
4.Convert al-Qaeda into an ideology and set of operating principles that can be loosely franchised in other countries without requiring direct command and control, and via these franchises incite attacks against the U.S. and countries allied with the U.S. until they withdraw from the conflict, as happened with the 2004 Madrid train bombings, but which did not have the same effect with the July 7, 2005 London bombings.
5.The U.S. economy will finally collapse by the year 2020 under the strain of multiple engagements in numerous places, making the worldwide economic system which is dependent on the U.S. also collapse leading to global political instability, which in turn leads to a global jihad led by al-Qaeda and a Wahhabi Caliphate will then be installed across the world following the collapse of the U.S. and the rest of the Western world countries".

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

You seriously think that if we pulled out of Afghanistan and other countries that we have been involved in, that these nutters, murderers and terrorists would stop?

I just can't believe that you think that will happen, it won't.
I don't profess to know the answer but if we become lax, and soft, these animals will take full advantage and you'll see a lot more of this sort of event on our streets.

We weren't in any country when 9/11 happened

Yes we were, we are always in certain countries even when its not all out war. Which is one of the beefs these guys have they want US/UK military bases out their countries.

Their country is either Nigeria or the UK, forget all this Muslim brotherhood stuff they were born Christians and had there heads turned towards radicalised Islam because they are weak minded fuck nuts

 

[didactic]

We weren't in any country when 9/11 happened

Yes we were, we are always in certain countries even when its not all out war. Which is one of the beefs these guys have they want US/UK military bases out their countries.

Whilst at the same time calling for Sharia Law in these countries, hypocritical no?

What business is it of ours how countries govern their people? Do not be deceived into believing we care. Only the countries that have something we want we help the rest we just ignore genocides and mass murders.

Anyway there are very people who call for Sharia law and very few countries that implement it.<br /><br />-- Fri May 24, 2013 10:11 am --<br /><br />

Their country is either Nigeria or the UK, forget all this Muslim brotherhood stuff they were born Christians and had there heads turned towards radicalised Islam because they are weak minded fuck nuts

Not that simple some people are radicalised by their inability to fit in. At home you are being told one thing at school and outside you are seeing another. Usually these people are looking for something and latch on to an extreme belief because it excuses their inability to fit in. If you believe the world is fucked up then its ok that you do not fit in as its not your fault. This is the same for school shooters and people who commit mass acts of murder. Its always a "me against the world" mentality.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

You seriously think that if we pulled out of Afghanistan and other countries that we have been involved in, that these nutters, murderers and terrorists would stop?

I just can't believe that you think that will happen, it won't.
I don't profess to know the answer but if we become lax, and soft, these animals will take full advantage and you'll see a lot more of this sort of event on our streets.

Can you show me where in history we had terrorist attacks from Al Qaeda in the UK and the USA before the 1960's?

 

[BlueHammer85]

there is a reason for the 9/11 and London bombings. Cause and effect. simple as that the sooner we relise why they are doing this the faster it will stop but sadly that will never happen.

You seriously think that if we pulled out of Afghanistan and other countries that we have been involved in, that these nutters, murderers and terrorists would stop?

I just can't believe that you think that will happen, it won't.
I don't profess to know the answer but if we become lax, and soft, these animals will take full advantage and you'll see a lot more of this sort of event on our streets.

We weren't in any country when 9/11 happened

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[mancitymick]

there is a reason for the 9/11 and London bombings. Cause and effect. simple as that the sooner we relise why they are doing this the faster it will stop but sadly that will never happen.

You seriously think that if we pulled out of Afghanistan and other countries that we have been involved in, that these nutters, murderers and terrorists would stop?

I just can't believe that you think that will happen, it won't.
I don't profess to know the answer but if we become lax, and soft, these animals will take full advantage and you'll see a lot more of this sort of event on our streets.

We weren't in any country when 9/11 happened

Yes we were. We were still patrolling the no fly zone and bombing raids were conducted in 99/00 in Iraq during OP Air Iraq. this went on for a few more years. Further more a Task Force was in the NAG (Northern Arabian Gulf) for years after

 

[Skashion]

The United States and Britain have been interfering in the Middle East for the past century and more (more in the case of Britain). They consistently back and arm dictators in pursuit of their own strategic interests. There are many many victims of these policies, from millions of Palestinians to the pro-democracy movements of Iran, Saudi, Bahrain, Egypt et al. You are living with your head in the sand if you think there aren't legitimate reasons for Muslims and Arabs to be pissed off with the west.

By all means, decry terrorist acts, decry the death of innocents, I'll join you, only I care about western victims and Muslim/Arab victims as well. But if you're going to be fucking self-righteous about it and pretend this all started with 9/11, history and I will make a fool of you.

 

[Bones]

For the people claiming this attack was justified, because apparently our soldiers go massacring thousands of Muslims each day. They conveniently forget it was the British helping out these Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo.

 

[AntiUnited]

For the people claiming this attack was justified, because apparently our soldiers go massacring thousands of Muslims each day. They conveniently forget it was the British helping out these Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo.

u mean letting the massacres happen ? and then showing up saying we where to late... ye that really helped those thousands of men and boys.