Likewise (not that long in from work). That was indeed heartbreaking to watch; a family devastated in the name of religion/politics (take your pick). Hopefully Drummer Rigby is in a better place now.kippaxwarrior said:Just seen the video of the family
Absolutely heartbreaking
didactic said:TCIB said:didactic said:I am wary of your posts because you have unnatural deep rooted hatred for all things religious. Again this is your choice but you spend much more time here and are more invested in things than I am. I have no time to be a wind up merchant I speak my opinion and my feelings. Feel free to accept or reject them that is every persons choice.
You claim superior knowledge to those living or who have lived in these communities. People with family and friends who are Muslims which I find rather strange but again you are entitled to your opinion. Like I said before and I stick to it now I have nothing against any Muslim as I believe their religion to be one of peace and love. I have family and friends who are Muslims and they are some of the best people I am blessed enough to know. It would take more than an angry stranger on a football forum calling me a WUM or an idiot to change that.
You just illustraded your ignorance again, you just made my point for me.
I detest abrahamic faith, not all things religious so please at least be accurate when making accusations.
My mistake I KNOW THEIR RELIGION TO BE ONE OF PEACE AND LOVE.
TCIB considers me ignorant like last night instead of hijacking the thread. Ill let you have it. I am ignorant, you know more about abrahamic faith and your opinion is the only valid one. Can I continue to debate with others now without the personal attacks from you?
andyblue87 said:didactic said:TCIB said:You just illustraded your ignorance again, you just made my point for me.
I detest abrahamic faith, not all things religious so please at least be accurate when making accusations.
My mistake I KNOW THEIR RELIGION TO BE ONE OF PEACE AND LOVE.
TCIB considers me ignorant like last night instead of hijacking the thread. Ill let you have it. I am ignorant, you know more about abrahamic faith and your opinion is the only valid one. Can I continue to debate with others now without the personal attacks from you?
It is a religion that teaches this but it also breeds a lack of tolerance in many cases, ask Salman Rushdie (RIP) or a certain Danish newspaper. I am an atheist myself and i can not fathom how anybody can declare that people should be murdered for posting an image of something. That just doesn't seem to work in line with teachings of peace and love.
kippaxwarrior said:Just seen the video of the family
Absolutely heartbreaking
nw42 said:andyblue87 said:didactic said:My mistake I KNOW THEIR RELIGION TO BE ONE OF PEACE AND LOVE.
TCIB considers me ignorant like last night instead of hijacking the thread. Ill let you have it. I am ignorant, you know more about abrahamic faith and your opinion is the only valid one. Can I continue to debate with others now without the personal attacks from you?
It is a religion that teaches this but it also breeds a lack of tolerance in many cases, ask Salman Rushdie (RIP) or a certain Danish newspaper. I am an atheist myself and i can not fathom how anybody can declare that people should be murdered for posting an image of something. That just doesn't seem to work in line with teachings of peace and love.
Ahem, Salman here, still around for the cause as it happens.
andyblue87 said:It is a religion that teaches this but it also breeds a lack of tolerance in many cases, ask Salman Rushdie (RIP) or a certain Danish newspaper. I am an atheist myself and i can not fathom how anybody can declare that people should be murdered for posting an image of something. That just doesn't seem to work in line with teachings of peace and love.
didactic said:andyblue87 said:It is a religion that teaches this but it also breeds a lack of tolerance in many cases, ask Salman Rushdie (RIP) or a certain Danish newspaper. I am an atheist myself and i can not fathom how anybody can declare that people should be murdered for posting an image of something. That just doesn't seem to work in line with teachings of peace and love.
People make these decisions not the religion the Quran teaches you are not to make any depictions of any idol, statue, human or anything else. It says that there should be no false idols but Allah. Man decided to say we shall kill other men for the offense.
blueinsa said:quiet_riot said:http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-bbc-nick-robinson-muslim
The BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, has apologised after he quoted a source who apparently described the Woolwich attackers as being "of Muslim appearance".
The corporation received 43 complaints after Robinson used the phrase on BBC1's 6pm bulletin on Wednesday, hours after the savage machette attack that killed a serving soldier in London.
On Thursday, the BBC's political editor said he regretted his choice of words, writing on his official BBC blog: "With minutes to go before the BBC News at Six I was told by a senior Whitehall source that the incident was being treated as a suspected terrorist incident and being taken very seriously indeed.
"This information changed the news from a crime story to something of more significance. The police had, I was told, described the attackers as being 'of Muslim appearance; and shouting 'Allahu Akbar'. On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used that description.
"That phrase 'of Muslim appearance' clearly offended some who demanded to know what it could possibly mean. Others were concerned that it was a racist generalisation."
His report on the BBC's most prominent bulletin was quickly picked up by media organisations around the world, who described it as evidence of a terrorist attack. Eyewitness reports later suggested that at least one of attackers had claimed to be retaliating because "Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers".
Robinson added: "Despite this and the fact that I was directly quoting a source I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence. Many Muslims were quick to condemn the attack and to distance themselves and their religion from the brutal savagery seen on the streets of Woolwich.
"The overnight protests of the English Defence League and attacks on some mosques lead some to fear the consequences for community relations. This all makes people understandably sensitive about anything which could be used to justify hostility to people on the basis of their appearance or religion."
Dozens of viewers complained on social networks following the broadcast. Hannah McGill, a film reviewer and panellist on BBC Four's Review Show, posted: "Whatever just happened, @BBCNews, it is entirely not OK for your correspondents to refer to anyone as 'of Muslim appearance'."
Why the apology?
They were seen and heard by witnesses shouting Allahu Akbar whilst butchering the poor guy, they are hardly going to be fucking Roman catholic are they?
This is what pisses people off, having to pussy foot around issues instead of telling it as it is.
TCIB said:didactic said:andyblue87 said:It is a religion that teaches this but it also breeds a lack of tolerance in many cases, ask Salman Rushdie (RIP) or a certain Danish newspaper. I am an atheist myself and i can not fathom how anybody can declare that people should be murdered for posting an image of something. That just doesn't seem to work in line with teachings of peace and love.
People make these decisions not the religion the Quran teaches you are not to make any depictions of any idol, statue, human or anything else. It says that there should be no false idols but Allah. Man decided to say we shall kill other men for the offense.
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (Qur'an 9:29)[22]