World class wingers !

[Anonymous]

Then get rid of Silva. Pointless having a little genius like that and playing with wingers.

United had Scholes , but never thought twice about playin' Giggs or Nani ??

totally different type of midfielder. Scholes favourite ball was the 40 yeard diagonal.

Silva likes to manouevre and play short quick passes. he needs players around him, not stuck 40yards away on the wing

Not too sure about that ....

both Scholes and Silva are capable of a range of passes (Scholes/ in his playing days) ..... and i've seen Silva come up with a peach of a long range pass if the situation's demanded it.

The main difference lay in other players ability to read their passes , and make the most of them...... and unfortunately for us the rags have had more players on that type of 'wavelength'.

 

[MCFC BOB]

-----------de Jong--------Yaya-----------
--------------------Silva------------------
Aguero-------------Dzeko------------Balotelli

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[LoveCity]

Lavezzi would be a good "wide forward" for us but would probably cost too much if we're paying over 20m for Nasri. Lavezzi would blitz a lot of full backs with pace like Bellamy did, his crossing can be hit and miss but is often hit and he set up tons of goals for Napoli. His workrate is near Tevez level too.

 

[cleavers]

Why not just delete my post?

Is replying not enough, why should I delete your post ?

Barca don't play wingers, they do play world class players, there's a big difference. Sanchez may become world class, but it won't be as a winger. Wingers are for managers with no ambition or imagination, thankfully we have a manager with both those traits.

 

[Reason Himself]

The problem with City is not a lack of wingers, but a lack of wingers AND fullbacks who can actually cross the fucking ball.

SWP is the least bad in that regard, crossing is a big unknown to Johnson, while Milner's crosses are just tragic. Kolarov is getting less bad, Micah is not bad but doesn't have the time to do it often enough as the midfield which should cover for him is normally shite.

Those who say Silva cannot play with wingers understand zero about the game of football, but what else is new?

 

[johnmc]

Why not just delete my post?

Is replying not enough, why should I delete your post ?

Barca don't play wingers, they do play world class players, there's a big difference. Sanchez may become world class, but it won't be as a winger. Wingers are for managers with no ambition or imagination, thankfully we have a manager with both those traits.

They dont have a striker really either. So if we are using barca as an example then we should also be talking about having the strikers who will thrive without needing wingers. I like Dzeko but he needs service. He won't score many like today.

 

[Tevez City]

Why not just delete my post?

Is replying not enough, why should I delete your post ?

Barca don't play wingers, they do play world class players, there's a big difference. Sanchez may become world class, but it won't be as a winger. Wingers are for managers with no ambition or imagination, thankfully we have a manager with both those traits.

Ok, so you mean Ferguson have no ambition !
Pmsl

 

[Corky]

Why not just delete my post?

Is replying not enough, why should I delete your post ?

Barca don't play wingers, they do play world class players, there's a big difference. Sanchez may become world class, but it won't be as a winger. Wingers are for managers with no ambition or imagination, thankfully we have a manager with both those traits.

No you normally delete my posts when you are wrong, so delete please.

 

[Reason Himself]

If Mancini is really trying to play Barca-style with Milner and Barry, he's crazier than I thought.

 

[Tevez City]

-----------de Jong--------Yaya-----------
--------------------Silva------------------
Aguero-------------Dzeko------------Balotelli

?

I do not trust Balotelli yet , and Aguero best position is in the middle not on the flanks.
I know that he is exceptionally skillful, but I am sure that he prefers to play as a striker or behind the striker.

 

[zangatangring]

Why not just delete my post?

Is replying not enough, why should I delete your post ?

Barca don't play wingers, they do play world class players, there's a big difference. Sanchez may become world class, but it won't be as a winger. Wingers are for managers with no ambition or imagination, thankfully we have a manager with both those traits.

Ok, so you mean Ferguson have no ambition !
Pmsl

This. Tevez city has a very good point. Wingers can expose some of the best teams in Europe. If wingers were obsolete, what would've happened to spurs? Imagine how deadly they'd have been if crouch could header the ball? Such a successful success rate from the flanks.

They needn't be famous signings, just inspired ones. I hope mancini really is doing wonders at training. The full backs' crossing is imperative to success. Also, just direct play in general let us down. In the Dzeko exploiting 4-2-3-1, the deep supportive passes were often over hit. This mitigated a major aspect of Dzeko's potential.

Just so people know, Balo is a winger. Only requires one more.....

 

[cleavers]

united don't just play 442 with wingers either, they haven't for about 10 years, they (a bit like barca - but not as good) have a flexible system where players will go wide.

Your description of wingers suggests the orthodox english 442 which is largely played by managers with little imagination. It involves, win the ball, get it wide, cross it, hope for a big man to get on the end, or get a lucky break, its effectiveness is very limited, which is why most of the managers who employ the tactic no longer win much.

There is not one successful football team in europe that play out and out wingers, that is my point, if you can name one then please do, and united don't, they may use the option now and then, but its not their plan A (or B).

 

[Andouble]

only teams with limited potential and dodgy defences choose to always play with wingers.

 

[cleavers]

No you normally delete my posts when you are wrong, so delete please.

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[johnmc]

united don't just play 442 with wingers either, they haven't for about 10 years, they (a bit like barca - but not as good) have a flexible system where players will go wide.

Your description of wingers suggests the orthodox english 442 which is largely played by managers with little imagination. It involves, win the ball, get it wide, cross it, hope for a big man to get on the end, or get a lucky break, its effectiveness is very limited, which is why most of the managers who employ the tactic no longer win much.

There is not one successful football team in europe that play out and out wingers, that is my point, if you can name one then please do, and united don't, they may use the option now and then, but its not their plan A (or B).

Sorry but united play wingers. I've seen plenty of goals of theirs that have been the result of a giggs nani Valencia cross with a head on the end of it.

 

[zangatangring]

united don't just play 442 with wingers either, they haven't for about 10 years, they (a bit like barca - but not as good) have a flexible system where players will go wide.

Your description of wingers suggests the orthodox english 442 which is largely played by managers with little imagination. It involves, win the ball, get it wide, cross it, hope for a big man to get on the end, or get a lucky break, its effectiveness is very limited, which is why most of the managers who employ the tactic no longer win much.

There is not one successful football team in europe that play out and out wingers, that is my point, if you can name one then please do, and united don't, they may use the option now and then, but its not their plan A (or B).

Valencia and Nani are out and out wingers. Just because they can switch flanks doesn't make them any different. The best out and out wingers have diversity to their game. Their most challenging matches all adopted this approach. Just coz of Spurs and Liverpool, people don't want to hear this stuff.<br /><br />-- Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:35 pm --<br /><br />

united don't just play 442 with wingers either, they haven't for about 10 years, they (a bit like barca - but not as good) have a flexible system where players will go wide.

Your description of wingers suggests the orthodox english 442 which is largely played by managers with little imagination. It involves, win the ball, get it wide, cross it, hope for a big man to get on the end, or get a lucky break, its effectiveness is very limited, which is why most of the managers who employ the tactic no longer win much.

There is not one successful football team in europe that play out and out wingers, that is my point, if you can name one then please do, and united don't, they may use the option now and then, but its not their plan A (or B).

Sorry but united play wingers. I've seen plenty of goals of theirs that have been the result of a giggs nani Valencia cross with a head on the end of it.

Bang on mate, just posted it.

 

[cleavers]

united don't just play 442 with wingers either, they haven't for about 10 years, they (a bit like barca - but not as good) have a flexible system where players will go wide.

Your description of wingers suggests the orthodox english 442 which is largely played by managers with little imagination. It involves, win the ball, get it wide, cross it, hope for a big man to get on the end, or get a lucky break, its effectiveness is very limited, which is why most of the managers who employ the tactic no longer win much.

There is not one successful football team in europe that play out and out wingers, that is my point, if you can name one then please do, and united don't, they may use the option now and then, but its not their plan A (or B).

Sorry but united play wingers. I've seen plenty of goals of theirs that have been the result of a giggs nani Valencia cross with a head on the end of it.

I never said they didn't get goals from crosses, every team does, even Barca, but the implication of playing wingers is the mostly failed 442 english system, and united very rarely play 442 these days.

 

[Reason Himself]

They did today.

 

[Corky]

United have played 4 3 3 with Sharpe and Giggs 20 years ago, but they were still wingers.

I said city got a game moved because of Yom Kippur, you said deleted it for being anti-semitic, and mocked me, but never apologised.

 

[zangatangring]

united don't just play 442 with wingers either, they haven't for about 10 years, they (a bit like barca - but not as good) have a flexible system where players will go wide.

Your description of wingers suggests the orthodox english 442 which is largely played by managers with little imagination. It involves, win the ball, get it wide, cross it, hope for a big man to get on the end, or get a lucky break, its effectiveness is very limited, which is why most of the managers who employ the tactic no longer win much.

There is not one successful football team in europe that play out and out wingers, that is my point, if you can name one then please do, and united don't, they may use the option now and then, but its not their plan A (or B).

Sorry but united play wingers. I've seen plenty of goals of theirs that have been the result of a giggs nani Valencia cross with a head on the end of it.

I never said they didn't get goals from crosses, every team does, even Barca, but the implication of playing wingers is the mostly failed 442 english system, and united very rarely play 442 these days.

Football is holistic sport, if the opposition propose this, you must propose this. Their 4-2-3-1 has been far more predominant as a result. United do play the 4-4-2 alot though. Rooney isn't a playmaker..... He's a deep lying forward. They orthodox flank attack more than any other team!