World class wingers !

[WNRH]

Does Mancini understand the importance of having at least two world class wingers in his starting eleven !

Silva is a play maker IMHO
AJ is a good winger but he is not world class winger YET


I hope Mancini have the courage to try to impliment a non Italian formation and see if it could improve us or not.

I look at United and they have Nani Valencia Young Giggs and Park can even play out there.
I look at City and we have Balotelli AJohnson Wright-Phillips and Weiss (I don't class Silva is this type of attacker, plus he's better in the middle).

United are far stronger.

On the wings for the formation they play, we play a different formation and system that doesn't require width up top.

 

[Tevez City]

Does Mancini understand the importance of having at least two world class wingers in his starting eleven !

Silva is a play maker IMHO
AJ is a good winger but he is not world class winger YET


I hope Mancini have the courage to try to impliment a non Italian formation and see if it could improve us or not.

I look at United and they have Nani Valencia Young Giggs and Park can even play out there.
I look at City and we have Balotelli AJohnson Wright-Phillips and Weiss (I don't class Silva is this type of attacker, plus he's better in the middle).

United are far stronger.

Exactly.

 

[Deleted member 14625]

Does Mancini understand the importance of having at least two world class wingers in his starting eleven !

Silva is a play maker IMHO
AJ is a good winger but he is not world class winger YET


I hope Mancini have the courage to try to impliment a non Italian formation and see if it could improve us or not.

I look at United and they have Nani Valencia Young Giggs and Park can even play out there.
I look at City and we have Balotelli AJohnson Wright-Phillips and Weiss (I don't class Silva is this type of attacker, plus he's better in the middle).

United are far stronger.

On the wings for the formation they play, we play a different formation and system that doesn't require width up top.

We play 451 or 4231 or 4213, all of them formations have wide players. Maybe not traditional wingers in a 442 formation but still..

 

[WNRH]

I look at United and they have Nani Valencia Young Giggs and Park can even play out there.
I look at City and we have Balotelli AJohnson Wright-Phillips and Weiss (I don't class Silva is this type of attacker, plus he's better in the middle).

United are far stronger.

On the wings for the formation they play, we play a different formation and system that doesn't require width up top.

We play 451 or 4231 or 4213, all of them formations have wide players. Maybe not traditional wingers in a 442 formation but still..

Don't think we have ever played 451, it's usually 4231 or 433, both require width from the full backs.

 

[GStar]

Does Mancini understand the importance of having at least two world class wingers in his starting eleven !

Silva is a play maker IMHO
AJ is a good winger but he is not world class winger YET


I hope Mancini have the courage to try to impliment a non Italian formation and see if it could improve us or not.

WHo do Madrid have as wingers, Ronaldo plays up front, the skinny Argentinian i can't remember the name of plays on the right but is left footed.

Barca play Villa from the left, much like we do Mario.

Chelsea have been playing all season, like us, with a front three where the width is provided from the full backs

Arsenal have LOLcott - ummm...

Liverpool; Downing and Kuyt once is as average as they come, the other is, well...

Inter - At one point palyed Eto'o wide, now i think they just stick everyone in the centre circle and hope for the best.


What i'm trying to say is, buying wingers won't dramatically change the team, not the way we set up. We did pretty well last year and i'm not have one pre season show piece change our entire season's outlook.

 

[Ntini77]

Didn't we finish third last season?

 

[Tevez City]

Ronaldo was a winger when he was playing for United.

Anyhow, call it winger, super winger or wide forward or whatever name you want to call it.

We need players who can run with the ball, beat players easily,creates chances, score goals, keep possession, do what players like ( Robben,Ronaldo , Ribery and Nani ) can do.<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:00 pm --<br /><br />

Didn't we finish third last season?

We did.

But there is always room for improvement.

 

[zangatangring]

WHo do Madrid have as wingers, Ronaldo plays up front, the skinny Argentinian i can't remember the name of plays on the right but is left footed.

Barca play Villa from the left, much like we do Mario.

Chelsea have been playing all season, like us, with a front three where the width is provided from the full backs

Arsenal have LOLcott - ummm...

Liverpool; Downing and Kuyt once is as average as they come, the other is, well...

Inter - At one point palyed Eto'o wide, now i think they just stick everyone in the centre circle and hope for the best.


What i'm trying to say is, buying wingers won't dramatically change the team, not the way we set up. We did pretty well last year and i'm not have one pre season show piece change our entire season's outlook.

Well, I'll pull out one of the clubs as an example....

Liverpool is a club that suffers paucity in more conventional European approaches. However, when you're talking about the aerial play and long balls, theoreticaly excellent. The skill of the wide men in Henderson/Downing/Kuyt is far too though. However, their delivery is pretty good. Factor this in with the aerial mastermind that is Carroll, you've got yourself an aerial masterclass. Theoretically, this sort of approach could expose many top teams but Liverpool just aren't good enough overall IMO.

Despite this, The reason they probably won't challenge is because they simply aren't scintillating enough. Spurs had much more capable wingers, one of the most excellent out and out winger duo in Lennon and Bale combining with the skyscraper that is Crouch.

Now, Crouch was so successful in the air in Europe that most target men would've scored at least one every match. The most successful teams usually offer a target man that has a more dynamic approach (E.G. Didier drogba). Our conformity to this approach is Edin Dzeko. The aim is simple, get the ball to him and work from there. It was quite shocking over hitting the direct balls. That also needs to be addressed. However, when we don't play with wingers, we need good crossing full backs.

 

[stavros]

Is replying not enough, why should I delete your post ?

Barca don't play wingers, they do play world class players, there's a big difference. Sanchez may become world class, but it won't be as a winger. Wingers are for managers with no ambition or imagination, thankfully we have a manager with both those traits.

Ok, so you mean Ferguson have no ambition !
Pmsl

This. Tevez city has a very good point. Wingers can expose some of the best teams in Europe. If wingers were obsolete, what would've happened to spurs? Imagine how deadly they'd have been if crouch could header the ball? Such a successful success rate from the flanks.

They needn't be famous signings, just inspired ones. I hope mancini really is doing wonders at training. The full backs' crossing is imperative to success. Also, just direct play in general let us down. In the Dzeko exploiting 4-2-3-1, the deep supportive passes were often over hit. This mitigated a major aspect of Dzeko's potential.

Just so people know, Balo is a winger. Only requires one more.....

disagree.
he gives us little and produces little when played wide. id be tempted to give balotelli a go as central striker.
do not rate him at all when he plays wide left

 

[zangatangring]

disagree.
he gives us little and produces little when played wide. id be tempted to give balotelli a go as central striker.
do not rate him at all when he plays wide left

I don't think he's as good when he plays wide left either. Although I trust Mancini's judgement and suspect his potential is yet to show there (he's been scarcely deployed in such a role when the whole team performed well). If he isn't very good there, then Mancini has made a huge mistake. A major aspect of our incentives of buying him.