yeah, I'm too much of a partisan club supporter to really get into my national team seriously, and I usually find I'm more interested in Scotland, Wales, the Rep of Ireland and Northern Ireland and all the teams with City players in them than in our squad (often times because I've got something against the manager and/or other players in the squad) when the World Cup comes along.. anyone playing attractive football also gets my vote, along with the underdogs... England naturally rarely feature in my lists, although I'd like to see them qualify here I'm not going to be all broken up about it if (as it looks likely) they don't - and I quite like Roy as a person, but he needs to push the boat out a bit more.