crazyg
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As the refereeing supremo over in the USA is none other than Peter Walton, I'd say that it was a valid comment!
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World Cup VAR
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Hahahaha.Plus he should have booked Henderson for simulation.
England doing well is really pissing you off.
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Weren’t you and your American pundits upset that someone wasn’t send off for a professional foul in the box a few days ago?Huh?
Just because a *ref* is from MLS doesn't automatically mean he or she is bad.
It’s that sort of thing that leads people to think Americans don’t know the rules.
Edit, yes, here it is:
“The sole caveat to the above was the curious non-red for Denmark's clear last-man foul on Croatia's attacker in the box, denying a clear cut goal scoring opportunity (in fact, Croatia's attacker had rounded the keeper, was about 3 feet away from goal, and there was no defender nearby at all except the one behind the attacker who committed the foul).
IMO the defender did try to make a play on the ball - still, it was a foul, he was the last man, and Croatia would clearly have scored absent the penalty. I'm not a rules expert, but parity suggests that the defender has to be sent off. On the Fox broadcast, Dr. Joe said the same. If I'm correct, this is a huge VAR error.”
IMO the defender did try to make a play on the ball - still, it was a foul, he was the last man, and Croatia would clearly have scored absent the penalty. I'm not a rules expert, but parity suggests that the defender has to be sent off. On the Fox broadcast, Dr. Joe said the same. If I'm correct, this is a huge VAR error.”
Not overly. I want the City lads to do well so invariably England will do well too. If they get knocked out, yes I'd laugh but it has no great effect either way.Hahahaha.
England doing well is really pissing you off.
It's the same as Liverpool winning the CL though, even just beating us, the hyperbole. Especially given the undoubtedly average performances to date from England.
As for that comment, Neymar should have been punished for his theatrics and same for Henderson. It's deceiving the officials. Same for anyone. Simple really.
Do you like to see that from players?
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Hollywood Blue
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I’ve been watching the MLS since 1996 and had Galaxy season tickets for twelve years, MLS referees are shocking.Huh?
Just because a *ref* is from MLS doesn't automatically mean he or she is bad.
Neville Kneville
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Except that head of VAR in this world cup, Collina has said in recent days, that this is one of the improvements he is in favour of, he wants transparency, and if its brought in, then there will be no excuses.
They can be transparently dishonest. Or transparently gutless/biased.
So long as a bloke in a box can decide which incidents the referee should look at, it's a cheats charter.
cleavers
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Not if its viewable to the public, and that was what Collina said he hoped for.They can be transparently dishonest. Or transparently gutless/biased.
So long as a bloke in a box can decide which incidents the referee should look at, it's a cheats charter.
Neville Kneville
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Not if its viewable to the public, and that was what Collina said he hoped for.
It was viewable to the public, just not the ref.
The best system would be a referral system & the discussions on the decision on mic.
But even that still won't stop possible corruption or incompetence, until the rules are written clearly & refs prevented from wriggling out of decisions.
The pens Spain should have had, being an example. The rules for a typical pen don't include a get out clause, for if the victim fouls back, after being fouled himself. Yet suddenly we have Clsttenburg on tv telling us the foul on Piquet wasn't 'enough' of a foul (utter bollocks) & that Ramos, after being fouled, did the same, so that doesn't count either.
Whatever his agenda, neither pundits or v.a.r. operators or match refs, should be allowed to ignore someone initiating a foul in the penalty area. Because the next day, they will give the opposite decision, even against the same team & v.a.r. allows them to do even more of that, rather than less.
All of this should have been done, over many years, before unleashing it on the World Cup.
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blueinsa
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It was viewable to the public, just not the ref.
The best system would be a referral system & the discussions on the decision on mic.
But even that still won't stop possible corruption or incompetence, until the rules are written clearly & refs prevented from wriggling out of decisions.
The pens Spain should have had, being an example. The rules for a typical pen don't include a get out clause, for if the victim fouls back, after being fouled himself. Yet suddenly we have Clsttenburg on tv telling us the foul on Piquet wasn't 'enough' of a foul (utter bollocks) & that Ramos, after being fouled, did the same, so that doesn't count either.
Whatever his agenda, neither pundits or v.a.r. operators or match refs, should be allowed to ignore someone initiating a foul in the penalty area. Because the next day, they will give the opposite decision, even against the same team & v.a.r. allows them to do even more of that, rather than less.
All of this should have been done, over many years, before unleashing it on the World Cup.
Absolutely correct mate.
cleavers
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Yes, which is exactly what I've been saying all through this thread, and its what Collina appears to want.It was viewable to the public, just not the ref.
The best system would be a referral system & the discussions on the decision on mic.