Would You Accept A Rapist Playing For City?

[dobobobo]

I just wonder if all those saying 'no' would also say no to an ex-prisoner of war with five medals for fighting against your forces?

I'm presuming you mean the prisoner of war was captured and held in a military prison? And not he was kept in prison because of a crime he comitted?

I don't know anyone involved in the armed forces nor have I ever been involved in the armed forces. (So I may be wrong with the following.) But, as I undertsand it, armed forces/governments don't class the killing of another soldier as murder/criminal offence. When a soldier kills a soldier of the oppotion I've heard this often said: "It's not murder, it's war." In other words, so long as the soldier who killed followed the rules of engagement then he hasn't comitted a crime. If it is believed the soldier didn't follow the rules of engagment then military police (from the soldiers nation) get involved.

My point being, Bert Trautmann never committed a criminal offence whilst fighting for the Nazi's. So I have no problem with him having played for City. If he had comitted a war crime when fighting for the Nazi's, then the answer is no he should not of played for City. Thankfully this was not the case and I'm glad he served City.

 

[johnmc]

I just wonder if all those saying 'no' would also say no to an ex-prisoner of war with five medals for fighting against your forces?

That's the worst comparison I've ever seen.

 

[ballinio]

I just wonder if all those saying 'no' would also say no to an ex-prisoner of war with five medals for fighting against your forces?

idiotic thing to say

 

[Kippax.]

depends who he rapped.

Filthy Rappist.

and how much have you earned from rapping, I'm sorry whats your name again?

 

[ElanJo]

Sure, as long as his name is not Chad

 

[Helmet Cole]

I just wonder if all those saying 'no' would also say no to an ex-prisoner of war with five medals for fighting against your forces?

idiotic thing to say

Interesting point tbf, and if you think it's not an apt comparison or 'idiotic' that is more to do with your own values than the facts of the matter. I happen to agree with you actually but I'm sure squirty was just trying to add to the debate.

 

[aguero93:20]

Filthy Rappist.

and how much have you earned from rapping, I'm sorry whats your name again?

Woosh.

 

[BigOscar]

Depends on the specifics of the crime. If they'd violently assaulted the girl, dragged her down an alley and raped her then I don't think many people would want him anywhere near the club. But in Ched's case, it seems more like he's a creepy git who sleeps with his mates drunk sloppy seconds, I wouldn't be particularly averse to re-signing him. I'd object more to someone like Marlon King, it's bizarre to me that he got less prison time.

He's gone to prison, he's done his time, it's not like he's a danger to society, so I can't see any reason to not let him play football again. Unfortunately, I imagine this sort of behaviour is not that uncommon with british footballers, he's just the one who went down for it.

 

[Erling Haaland's Eyebrows]

depends who he rapped.

Did one with Eminem I believe ;)

 

[Oystercatcher28]

I just wonder if all those saying 'no' would also say no to an ex-prisoner of war with five medals for fighting against your forces?

I'm presuming you mean the prisoner of war was captured and held in a military prison? And not he was kept in prison because of a crime he comitted?

I don't know anyone involved in the armed forces nor have I ever been involved in the armed forces. (So I may be wrong with the following.) But, as I undertsand it, armed forces/governments don't class the killing of another soldier as murder/criminal offence. When a soldier kills a soldier of the oppotion I've heard this often said: "It's not murder, it's war." In other words, so long as the soldier who killed followed the rules of engagement then he hasn't comitted a crime. If it is believed the soldier didn't follow the rules of engagment then military police (from the soldiers nation) get involved.

My point being, Bert Trautmann never committed a criminal offence whilst fighting for the Nazi's. So I have no problem with him having played for City. If he had comitted a war crime when fighting for the Nazi's, then the answer is no he should not of played for City. Thankfully this was not the case and I'm glad he served City.

He never fought for the Nazis, he fought for the Luftwaffe, and his country - like the vast majority of Luftwaffe and armed force troops, he was not a Nazi. Actual Nazi supporters were few and far between. When you're drafted, you're drafted (or a deserter and dead/imprisoned-at best).

Taking the morale high-ground over sexual abuse/rape/sex crimes is far easier than war, where, loyalty was reversed and war crimes not noted.