I never suggested winning the league isn't the greater achievement, although winning the CL isn't a much lesser achievement. They each require different mental skills to overcome. The league is a marathon, but in theory you could win a league without ever beating your main competitors. The CL by comparison is a sprint, but that is arguably the tougher mental test because you have to be perfect to win it. Statistically speaking, the idea that the League is harder to win just doesn't stand to scrutiny. How many Leagues have we won compared to CL titles? If the CL were easier and "tin pot", as some cretins on here have labelled it, we'd have at least one by now.
On the luck thing, no, it isn't unlucky that you've conceded an equaliser in the dying moments. If you're winning by one goal you haven't killed the game off, have you? Why does luck come in it? See above, there's a possibility you have to play your perfect game to win a European Cup final. The Scousers thought they were unlucky against Madrid this year. They weren't, they were just unclinical. Madrid were clinical, they had the right mindset on the night. Shit bust. On penalties, did Haaland's penalty the other day leave anything to luck? It was unstoppable. No keeper saves that. Conversely, if you take a shit penalty, you risk losing: luck has nothing to do with it. Have our recent League Cup/FA Cup wins been lucky? Let's further the analogy, is Federer lucky he has eight Wimbledon titles, and Murray unlucky he only has two? Wimbledon is a knock-out competition after all.
The reality is the CL is the biggest club competition in the world, and our failures in it are now holding us back as a club. Would you not love to see one of our own win the Balón d'Or? We could potentially have one on our books in Erling: but here's the thing, I can absolutely guaran-fucking-tee you he isn't winning that accolade unless he lifts Big Ears; and you can take that to the bank.
I'm expectant, rather than hopeful, that this is going to be the season. Pep will want it with every fibre and we potentially have the best group of players we've ever had. I could give two shiny shits how we fare in the domestic cups this season, I'd be happy for Pep to play the C-teams in both. Try to get the League sewn up early, then we focus our attentions on the big one.
Snuggled up to a PS5? You've lost me mate.Nothing us holding us back as a club? The CL will be over when the SL rears its ugly head again. Winning the league is the benchmark football is all about tradition it doesn't have to be constantly reinvented for people who get bored easily.
I couldn't care less if we never win it, there again I have never snuggled up to a PS5 for company thinking that it's real life ;)
Snuggled up to a PS5? You've lost me mate.
My attitude is I’d rather win the league all day every day over any other trophy. How is that hard to grasp?What kind of attitude is that? Because the morons would say you've only won one, let's just throw our hands up and say "fuck it, let's not win any."
By that logic, we should never have bothered winning our first Prem, because the morons would come back with, "we've won more."
I said this earlier in the thread, but if you aren't bothered about our continual failings in this competition then you don't have the club's best interests at heart.
I never suggested winning the league isn't the greater achievement, although winning the CL isn't a much lesser achievement. They each require different mental skills to overcome. The league is a marathon, but in theory you could win a league without ever beating your main competitors. The CL by comparison is a sprint, but that is arguably the tougher mental test because you have to be perfect to win it. Statistically speaking, the idea that the League is harder to win just doesn't stand to scrutiny. How many Leagues have we won compared to CL titles? If the CL were easier and "tin pot", as some cretins on here have labelled it, we'd have at least one by now.
On the luck thing, no, it isn't unlucky that you've conceded an equaliser in the dying moments. If you're winning by one goal you haven't killed the game off, have you? Why does luck come in it? See above, there's a possibility you have to play your perfect game to win a European Cup final. The Scousers thought they were unlucky against Madrid this year. They weren't, they were just unclinical. Madrid were clinical, they had the right mindset on the night. Shit bust. On penalties, did Haaland's penalty the other day leave anything to luck? It was unstoppable. No keeper saves that. Conversely, if you take a shit penalty, you risk losing: luck has nothing to do with it. Have our recent League Cup/FA Cup wins been lucky? Let's further the analogy, is Federer lucky he has eight Wimbledon titles, and Murray unlucky he only has two? Wimbledon is a knock-out competition after all.
The reality is the CL is the biggest club competition in the world, and our failures in it are now holding us back as a club. Would you not love to see one of our own win the Balón d'Or? We could potentially have one on our books in Erling: but here's the thing, I can absolutely guaran-fucking-tee you he isn't winning that accolade unless he lifts Big Ears; and you can take that to the bank.
I'm expectant, rather than hopeful, that this is going to be the season. Pep will want it with every fibre and we potentially have the best group of players we've ever had. I could give two shiny shits how we fare in the domestic cups this season, I'd be happy for Pep to play the C-teams in both. Try to get the League sewn up early, then we focus our attentions on the big one.
I like Leeds, they wind the rags up and I was over there visiting the sister when Mexico played France in 2010 (WC) and there was a whole pub singing 'come on you boys in green'. Plus Ian Harte and Gary Kelly.How many times do Leeds get relegated?
Have you legitimately just compared the Champions League to the League cup and charity shield?My attitude is I’d rather win the league all day every day over any other trophy. How is that hard to grasp?
The champions league is a cup comp, it’s no greater than the FA Cup to me. It can be won be pure chance or it can’t. I don’t see it as the be all and end all. Would it be nice to win? Of course, but so is the league cup or charity shield.
My logic is not one of we need the monkey off our back. As other posters have alluded to. My logic is win your domestic title and then whatever else you win is an added bonus. I certainly would not be giving up a league title to a rival team for a European FA Cup.
PS thanks for telling me how my best interests are laid out though pal. Nice try.