Would you accept this scenario?

I'd accept it, so long as there was some excitement throughout the season.

I know many on here think that they'd love it if City won every game easily between now and the end of time, but I don't believe that's true. We need to have ups and downs to make the ups exciting, and at some point have to accept that losing the league title, makes winning it the next season even better.

Competition is the reason we care less about a dead rubber in a Champions League group, or a pre-season friendly, than the games against Liverpool.
 
meeesh said:
Winning ANY knockout trophy is luck,any competition
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No, it's not. This bullshit needs putting to bed. In a one off ninety minutes it's up to a team to be at their absolute best, otherwise they risk not winning the big prize. Your centre back slips in the 90th minute to let the opponent score? Tough shit. You've had 89 minutes previous to assert your authority and prove you are the best. A winner doesn't win by luck, it just means the loser didn't do enough to win the game. If anything, it's harder to win this trophy because the margin for error is zero. It's a cliche as old as time but it rings true: you make your own luck in football.
 
Initially was going to say yes but then after reading another response I'm going with no because 3 league titles on the trot is impressive. Maybe in a season where such a run is broken would I say yes.
 
Blue and true said:
No, it's not. This bullshit needs putting to bed. In a one off ninety minutes it's up to a team to be at their absolute best, otherwise they risk not winning the big prize. Your centre back slips in the 90th minute to let the opponent score? Tough shit. You've had 89 minutes previous to assert your authority and prove you are the best. A winner doesn't win by luck, it just means the loser didn't do enough to win the game. If anything, it's harder to win this trophy because the margin for error is zero. It's a cliche as old as time but it rings true: you make your own luck in football.
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OK then,let's use your anology there,centre back slips and it costs a goal,would you consider this as UNLUCKY then,because if you was winning 1-0 and it is suddenly 1-1 then it's extra time or lose on pens ?

Which way you want it ? Course it isn't bullshit,it's what happens for fuck sake,presuming uou have seen recent cup games/finals

Now winning a league over a season in 38 games is totally different and will always be a better achievement no matter which way it is analysed.
 
a big yes for me, ok arsenal will win the league but we can win it next year, win another fa cup, also chelsea utd and liverpool out of the champs league next year will be the icing on the cake, you can see the fall out LOL
 
Blue and true said:
No, it's not. This bullshit needs putting to bed. In a one off ninety minutes it's up to a team to be at their absolute best, otherwise they risk not winning the big prize. Your centre back slips in the 90th minute to let the opponent score? Tough shit. You've had 89 minutes previous to assert your authority and prove you are the best. A winner doesn't win by luck, it just means the loser didn't do enough to win the game. If anything, it's harder to win this trophy because the margin for error is zero. It's a cliche as old as time but it rings true: you make your own luck in football.
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Surely one of the best things about football is that a single slip can undo 89 minutes of a good performance.

Most games against opponents that are a similar level will be decided by the odd goal. Even two goal margins often arise when their is a single goal in the game, and the chasing team get caught on the counter.

City's nil-nil at Atletico was considered a great game from our point of view - heading to a difficult stadium, being wound up constantly, and yet keeping enough control of the game that it was the opponents who got frustrated.

Against teams in the latter stages of the FA Cup or Champions League the matches are generally close enough to be decided by almost random events - a ball bouncing luckily away from an attacker, or bouncing into their path. There are pretty much no cup winners who got there without a little luck at some point in their run.
 
MadchesterCity said:
Ok so this is all hypothetical but..,

Would you take the League finishing as it is if City were guaranteed champions league victory?

OK so the bad news is Arsenal win the league!
City win the champions league!
City win the FA Cup
City go out of League Cup, it is won by a team outside the media top 6
Chelsea, United and Liverpool all miss out on Champions league
Leeds are relegated

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I’m a little torn this season because we have no idea how much the World Cup is going to fuck up our season.

But if that’s as little as we can get away with, then I want three Premier League titles in a row more than I want the Champions League.

If it really fuck’s up our season with injuries and player fatigue, then I’ll want the Champions League as you can target that in a much more sporadic way to winning the league, just getting up for it a couple of times a month instead of every single week/every single day like you need for the Prem.

For one season and one season only, I want to go out of both domestic cup competitions as early as possible to help make either of the above happen.

Stupid bloody World Cup can get fucked, feel like it’s really going to affect de Bruyne (he’s getting older and he’s had a number of serious injuries in his career and he’s physically - not ability - looking older than he is) and Rodri (forced to play far too many games as it is because of lack of back-ups) and could mean we are affected greatly by too many games.

I feel like the World Cup is already affecting us as I don’t think we’re playing well at the moment and I think our players have the WC on their minds, some are even backing out of challenges they’d always usually be committed to.
 
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meeesh said:
Try telling that to people who’ve won the lotto then
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That’s down to chance, not luck.

Someone who has won the Lottery has paid for a ticket and happened to have got, by chance and probability, the same six numbers out of 59 that came out of the machine that week.

There’s always a chance of that happening if you buy a ticket because the ticket buyer can only get numbers that are in the machine, even if the probability is slim, there’s always a chance.

Chance implies an unexpected coincidence; luck implies (like fate, omens, curses and other crackpot fictions of the human imagination) that some sort of magic is involved.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
That’s down to chance, not luck.

Someone who has won the Lottery has paid for a ticket and happened to have got, by chance and probability, the same six numbers out of 59 that came out of the machine that week.

There’s always a chance of that happening if you buy a ticket because the ticket buyer can only get numbers that are in the machine, even if the probability is slim, there’s always a chance.

Chance implies an unexpected coincidence; luck implies (like fate, omens, curses and other crackpot fictions of the human imagination) that some sort of magic is involved.
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"Is luck merely the phenomenological experience of chance? Discuss in relation to two philosophers of game theory"
 
Yeah I'd be okay with that OP.
It's probably a good thing (for football) we don't win the prem every year.
I can do without it for this season if we won the CL.
It's a huge thing we've never won.

As long as Shitpool win nothing.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
That’s down to chance, not luck.

Someone who has won the Lottery has paid for a ticket and happened to have got, by chance and probability, the same six numbers out of 59 that came out of the machine that week.

There’s always a chance of that happening if you buy a ticket because the ticket buyer can only get numbers that are in the machine, even if the probability is slim, there’s always a chance.

Chance implies an unexpected coincidence; luck implies (like fate, omens, curses and other crackpot fictions of the human imagination) that some sort of magic is involved.
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If in anyway suggesting my boy swapping his city top to his "comeback" city top didn't make a difference when we were 2 down to Villa then I'm sorry, you're wrong!
 
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