Would you accept this scenario?

Cambijao said:
Yes. We've never won Champions League and it's by far the most prestegious trophy in club football. It'd finally silence the haters for ridiculing Pep's UCL failures since leaving Barca.

Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world due to 14 UCL-trophies and Man City should aspire to come close to their level.
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We'll never be a great team until we've won 14 ucl titles on the bounce.
 
Think a lot of people are too focused on City, and not focused enough on how a) funny it would be and b) bad for the clubs it would be if Chelsea, Liverpool AND United didn't have CL football.
 
It’s a great word, scenario. Truly. Thing is though, I once heard it pronounced by a Liverpudlian and now whenever I see the word, I can’t help but hearing it in that form. It’s impossible for me not to. It just lends itself so perfectly to being pronounced in a scouse accent. In fact I generally now pronounce it that way too.

Of limited relevance to the thread, admittedly.
 
Blue and true said:
No, it's not. This bullshit needs putting to bed. In a one off ninety minutes it's up to a team to be at their absolute best, otherwise they risk not winning the big prize. Your centre back slips in the 90th minute to let the opponent score? Tough shit. You've had 89 minutes previous to assert your authority and prove you are the best. A winner doesn't win by luck, it just means the loser didn't do enough to win the game. If anything, it's harder to win this trophy because the margin for error is zero. It's a cliche as old as time but it rings true: you make your own luck in football.
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Think you're wrong there. VAR is a game changer. We've suffered enough because of it.
Also, you seem to assume football works like FIFA 22 - it doesn't. You can have all sorts of things go wrong but still deserve to win.
For example, take City 2 Spurs 2 a couple of PL titles back. We played brilliantly yet didn't win because of VAR
 
There is only one trophy that really matters to an English football club, the English league title! End of!

The champions league only matters to the muppets outside the club who bash pep. Khaldoon knows that otherwise pep would be gone!

Listen, even if we won the chumps league they would still say ‘one isn’t enough for all the money’ blah blah blah! Simon Jordan would still be sat working out how many chumps league trophies to yearly spend blah blah blah.

The league title is the one that matters. Your officially the best team in the land and to win it three times on the trot, your cemented as a legendary team in this country. It’s a rare feet, miles harder to do than win a cup comp.
 
meeesh said:
OK then,let's use your anology there,centre back slips and it costs a goal,would you consider this as UNLUCKY then,because if you was winning 1-0 and it is suddenly 1-1 then it's extra time or lose on pens ?

Which way you want it ? Course it isn't bullshit,it's what happens for fuck sake,presuming uou have seen recent cup games/finals

Now winning a league over a season in 38 games is totally different and will always be a better achievement no matter which way it is analysed.
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I never suggested winning the league isn't the greater achievement, although winning the CL isn't a much lesser achievement. They each require different mental skills to overcome. The league is a marathon, but in theory you could win a league without ever beating your main competitors. The CL by comparison is a sprint, but that is arguably the tougher mental test because you have to be perfect to win it. Statistically speaking, the idea that the League is harder to win just doesn't stand to scrutiny. How many Leagues have we won compared to CL titles? If the CL were easier and "tin pot", as some cretins on here have labelled it, we'd have at least one by now.

On the luck thing, no, it isn't unlucky that you've conceded an equaliser in the dying moments. If you're winning by one goal you haven't killed the game off, have you? Why does luck come in it? See above, there's a possibility you have to play your perfect game to win a European Cup final. The Scousers thought they were unlucky against Madrid this year. They weren't, they were just unclinical. Madrid were clinical, they had the right mindset on the night. Shit bust. On penalties, did Haaland's penalty the other day leave anything to luck? It was unstoppable. No keeper saves that. Conversely, if you take a shit penalty, you risk losing: luck has nothing to do with it. Have our recent League Cup/FA Cup wins been lucky? Let's further the analogy, is Federer lucky he has eight Wimbledon titles, and Murray unlucky he only has two? Wimbledon is a knock-out competition after all.

The reality is the CL is the biggest club competition in the world, and our failures in it are now holding us back as a club. Would you not love to see one of our own win the Balón d'Or? We could potentially have one on our books in Erling: but here's the thing, I can absolutely guaran-fucking-tee you he isn't winning that accolade unless he lifts Big Ears; and you can take that to the bank.

I'm expectant, rather than hopeful, that this is going to be the season. Pep will want it with every fibre and we potentially have the best group of players we've ever had. I could give two shiny shits how we fare in the domestic cups this season, I'd be happy for Pep to play the C-teams in both. Try to get the League sewn up early, then we focus our attentions on the big one.
 
theres only one carlito said:
There is only one trophy that really matters to an English football club, the English league title! End of!

The champions league only matters to the muppets outside the club who bash pep. Khaldoon knows that otherwise pep would be gone!

Listen, even if we won the chumps league they would still say ‘one isn’t enough for all the money’ blah blah blah! Simon Jordan would still be sat working out how many chumps league trophies to yearly spend blah blah blah.

The league title is the one that matters. Your officially the best team in the land and to win it three times on the trot, your cemented as a legendary team in this country. It’s a rare feet, miles harder to do than win a cup comp.
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What kind of attitude is that? Because the morons would say you've only won one, let's just throw our hands up and say "fuck it, let's not win any."

By that logic, we should never have bothered winning our first Prem, because the morons would come back with, "we've won more."

I said this earlier in the thread, but if you aren't bothered about our continual failings in this competition then you don't have the club's best interests at heart.
 
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