Failsworth_Blue said:bluemoon32 said:I think we've blown 4th place but i still want Mancini to be our manager next season.
Hughes' deficiencies in the transfer market are there for all to see and Mancini is having to work with someone elses side, give him the summer to bring in his own players and then watch us go next season.
Blown 4th place? We're 2 points off 4th. We're in with a real shout of 4th despite a poor result last night. If we don't get at least 7 points from the next 3 games i'll be concerned but for the time being we're right in the battle for 4th
I don't want Mancini to go. I think he has enough about him and given time could take us to where we want to be
depps said:Chippy_boy said:Mancini has the CV and the talent to take over from Baconface and Wenger as the best managers in the Prem.
If that's the case ask yourself why Inter felt the need to get shot of him despite having won 3 leagues titles in a row for a club that hadn't won the league in about 20 years?
Hold the fuck up, how can you compare their CVs, Hughes has won fuck all, Mancini has won something at EVERY club he has managed, how can you devalue his body of work to a man who's claim to fame is winning 12(yes 12!) of 41 games for Wales or a 6th place with Blackburn(something Souness did 2 years before).depps said:bizzbo said:long story. when you get to the bottom of it, let me know.
actually, this is a cracking article on the whole affair... written after his initial claim that he would leave, before moratti sacked him at the end of the season....
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.insidefutbol.com/2008/03/19/inter-milan-cracking-from-the-top-down/298/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.insidefutbol.com/2008/03/19/ ... -down/298/</a>
little excerpt, the whole thing is too big to copypasta
Good read but it doesn't change my point. Inter wanted rid despite his success so his CV isn't as glowing as some seem to think. The impression I get is that they knew he wouldn't be up to the job of keeping Inter on top when the other clubs began to recover form the calciopoli scandal.
This doesn't mean he's not a decent manager and won't ever become a top top manager but lets not kid ourselves into thinking we have one of Europe's finest at the helm when we don't.
He is a decent young manager on whom the jury is still out....just like our last manager was
depps said:Chippy_boy said:Mancini has the CV and the talent to take over from Baconface and Wenger as the best managers in the Prem.
If that's the case ask yourself why Inter felt the need to get shot of him despite having won 3 leagues titles in a row for a club that hadn't won the league in about 20 years?
depps said:lets not kid ourselves into thinking we have one of Europe's finest at the helm when we don't.
He is a decent young manager on whom the jury is still out....just like our last manager was
Chippy_boy said:depps said:lets not kid ourselves into thinking we have one of Europe's finest at the helm when we don't.
He is a decent young manager on whom the jury is still out....just like our last manager was
The two are incomparable.
Mancini - successful winner who has excelled in his management career.
Hughes - never won a thing.
Mancini - only managed a few games in the Prem, learning the ropes but already demonstrating he can read the game and make changes as required.
Hughes - masses of experience and over 80 games in charge at City, yet still clueless during matches, just sitting there like a chump until at 3-0 down and 87 minutes gone. Basically a total buffoon.
We MAY WELL have one of Europe's finest at the helm. Time will tell.
Chippy_boy said:depps said:lets not kid ourselves into thinking we have one of Europe's finest at the helm when we don't.
He is a decent young manager on whom the jury is still out....just like our last manager was
The two are incomparable.
Mancini - successful winner who has excelled in his management career.
Hughes - never won a thing.
Mancini - only managed a few games in the Prem, learning the ropes but already demonstrating he can read the game and make changes as required.
Hughes - masses of experience and over 80 games in charge at City, yet still clueless during matches, just sitting there like a chump until at 3-0 down and 87 minutes gone. Basically a total buffoon.
We MAY WELL have one of Europe's finest at the helm. Time will tell.
robbieh said:Depps. You are talkin bollocks.
I believe that had Hughes been in charge of United the last three years they would not have been champions.
Prior to that he would not have had success at Chelsea.
Hypothetical I know but I suspect he would have been able to screw it up.
Mancini may not be Mourinho or Alex Ferguson or even Wenger but he's a hell of a lot better than Hughesless.
bluebannana said:no the one thing city need is stability
depps said:robbieh said:Depps. You are talkin bollocks.
I believe that had Hughes been in charge of United the last three years they would not have been champions.
Prior to that he would not have had success at Chelsea.
Hypothetical I know but I suspect he would have been able to screw it up.
Mancini may not be Mourinho or Alex Ferguson or even Wenger but he's a hell of a lot better than Hughesless.
What does anything you have just said have anything to do with what I said in this thread?
Have I said Hughes was a great manager? NO
Have I said Hughes is better than Mancini? NO
Have I even said we would be better off if we hadn't sacked Hughes? NO
All I have said is that Mancini is not the godlike figure some on here consider him to be