WSL 2022/23 v Liverpool (A) 07/05 2pm Match thread

[hertsblue]

Usual pathetic finishing,17 shots and 3 on target.
Time for a change in manager or risk falling further behind the other leading clubs

 

[blue whippet]

One of the most disappointing performances of the year. Summed up by 4 moments -

Coombs, with zero pressure on, passing back at an ideal pace for them to score
Roebuck wandering outside her box holding the ball unaware of where she was.
Taylor making a sub 7 mins into injury time (usually done to waste time from a winning position)
A fullback attempting a back pass from inside the Liverpool half booting it straight out for a corner.

This ladies and gentlemen is football Gareth Taylor style.

Yes when it is written down like that it is very disappointing to say the least.
No champions league football for the women anyway next year. Perhaps, if we do bring in a new manager it will allow him to concentrate on the domestic competition.

 

[Mr HJ]

I think the rebuild in terms of personnel hasn't been all that poor. I think losing the three we did wasn't the hole that I expected. Yui has done a remarkably good job in replacing Keira. Caroline Weir, apart from the games against the Ragettes always made me feel she was thinking of shipping out, and Bunny Shaw has provided goals we didn't get from Georgia, despite being club top scorer. All in all the team, on paper, seems as good as we had. Not as good, perhaps, when we had Izzy, Scotty and Toni D in the team. I haven't seen any footage of today's game but suspect it wasn't a lack of effort that did for us, more a decision or two at the wrong time, and the guy in the technical area. He never seems to be getting anything like the best out of the squad.

Sadly Dave today was a game where for 85 mins the players did not put in the effort. I can't ever recall that from a City team. They looked leggy & lost just waiting for a moment of Hemp quality or a Shaw goal. Greenwood, Houghton, Coombs and Kelly were non- existent at times.

I've always said that we have a decent group of players but the way that they have been managed both in terms of tactically and ensuring rest at the right times has been shocking. Taylor must know he's in trouble now Nielsen is in charge and that was reflected by effort and intensity today - it was one of the worst games I've ever seen from us. It was that bad. He should have no complaints the way he has managed the squad at times has been very poor.

He did it in the past with Lavelle, Beckie and now Raso, Fowler & Blakstad - not making many changes to what he perceives his best team and when he does it's for a few minute cameos. He is clueless how to manage a squad and because of that some looked knackered today - contrast how Pep manages players so at the most important moments they are ready.

I suspect if Taylor stays most of our out of contract players will want out. I also expect Lauren and maybe even Shaw thinking it's time for a change. However, now we have a good director of football hopefully they will make the call to not renew Taylor and then look after the whole squad rather than a few favourites.

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

This is the kind of Keystone Cops football we used to see from a lot of women's teams which, over the years, have added an athleticism to their game which makes them difficult to break down, much like we saw yesterday with the men. But we have pace in our team, we have players with technique and we are seeing a game plan that makes it easy for humdrum, athletic sides to frustrate and get the better of us. This is the sort of result that loses us the likes of Hemp and Kelly.

Exactly. And this is the risk that our best players leave.
That and the interminable passing back and forth in defence especially against crap opponents.
The irony is that this team can play really well as some performances have shown but not consistently enough.
Very bad not to finish in top 3 as we almost certainly will especially now the profile of the women’s game will skyrocket now the rag women are doing so well

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Sadly Dave today was a game where for 85 mins the players did not put in the effort. I can't ever recall that from a City team. They looked leggy & lost just waiting for a moment of Hemp quality or a Shaw goal. Greenwood, Houghton, Coombs and Kelly were non- existent at times.

I've always said that we have a decent group of players but the way that they have been managed both in terms of tactically and ensuring rest at the right times has been shocking. Taylor must know he's in trouble now Nielsen is in charge and that was reflected by effort and intensity today - it was one of the worst games I've ever seen from us. It was that bad. He should have no complaints the way he has managed the squad at times has been very poor.

He did it in the past with Lavelle, Beckie and now Raso, Fowler & Blakstad - not making many changes to what he perceives his best team and when he does it's for a few minute cameos. He is clueless how to manage a squad and because of that some looked knackered today - contrast how Pep manages players so at the most important moments they are ready.

I suspect if Taylor stays most of our out of contract players will want out. I also expect Lauren and maybe even Shaw thinking it's time for a change. However, now we have a good director of football hopefully they will make the call to not renew Taylor and then look after the whole squad rather than a few favourites.

I've often sat in the Academy stadium and thought after about an hour, even when we are leading by a couple, that we need to freshen up in a couple of positions, and twenty-five minutes later, with minutes left he shoves on one of the subs. I can never understand what a manager thinks a player, barely warmed up, is gonna bring to a game whether we are ahead or chasing it, as was the case today. We beat Reading last week at home 3-1 and Villa have battered 'em today at Reading 5-0. That, I think sums up our season in just a couple of games.

 

[bigalfromeccles]

100% it's not as if we are being beaten by a team of better quality it's all about preparation and intensity.

Very famous coach once said the key to winning games is PREPARATION AND APPLICATION...we seem to be lacking both

 

[mattcity5]

I think the rebuild in terms of personnel hasn't been all that poor. I think losing the three we did wasn't the hole that I expected. Yui has done a remarkably good job in replacing Keira. Caroline Weir, apart from the games against the Ragettes always made me feel she was thinking of shipping out, and Bunny Shaw has provided goals we didn't get from Georgia, despite being club top scorer. All in all the team, on paper, seems as good as we had. Not as good, perhaps, when we had Izzy, Scotty and Toni D in the team. I haven't seen any footage of today's game but suspect it wasn't a lack of effort that did for us, more a decision or two at the wrong time, and the guy in the technical area. He never seems to be getting anything like the best out of the squad.

Yeah I was pretty pleased with the players we brought in, all of at least a good quality. And, I was fairly willing to see how Taylor went on with a different set of players. But now we've got a full season of evidence.... At our best we are still able to give anyone a good game, but at out worst we just aren't good enough.

This is down to Taylor.

For years we've been one of the top group, but this year has seen improvements in some of the mid-table teams. If Taylor continues there's a real risk we end up below the likes of Villa, Everton and Liverpool if they make any significant improvement.

The new director coming in is a start. Fingers crossed.