Yaya Toure - 2016/17 performances

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Horses for courses.

Yaya has a place in certain games and yesterday wasn't one of them, away to a Liverpool side that would press us to death.
I thought he was OK yesterday, from memory of the stats shown at the end, he had the most passes in the game, and best pass completion rate.

Had Liverpool pressed us to death I'd agree wrong player, but they didn't they just sat back and kept us out, for me that is the sort of game where he might just find some magic from somewhere to unlock a defence or score a good goal.
 
My opinion is that away at Liverpool you need 2 central midfielders to track runners and make challenges on the edge of the box. Toure just cannot do this. The 2 ferns need to play.
Save Toure for possession games I.E Burnley.

Although Yaya was by no means the main reason why we lost, you were spot on here.

I had worried before the game that the inclusion of Yaya would signal a similar, slow, uninspired performance as last season's fixture at Anfield. The match was totally lost in midfield with Liverpool overrunning us entirely.
 
Yaya has one major flaw and that's his predictable movement.

If you have a striker (Rooney) always coming short for a ball into feet, as a defender you know you can get tight and force him to play the ball backwards. If you have a striker (Vardy) that always runs in behind, as a defender you know you can drop off and restrict the space.

It's the same with Yaya. He always comes short for the ball into feet so the opposition midfield just stop him turning and he plays the ball backwards or sideways. They know he's not going to turn and dribble past them, they know he's not going to drag them in and then make a run in behind them so the variety and therefore fear factor he used to have is none existent these days. Yeah he's fitter than he was and he's working harder but it's just not enough against decent teams, just like it hasn't been for the past 2-3 years.
 
Previous to the Liverpool game, Yaya had done ok. With a fast pace team, he was targetted as a weak link, and they got that right. Against slower teams he seams ok.
No more so than Silva or DeBryune. We just couldn't play coz they worked as hard an they were just as talented, if not more so.

I think Yaya was at fault for the goal with that shit free kick, bit other than that, he was one if our better players.
 
Although Yaya was by no means the main reason why we lost, you were spot on here.

I had worried before the game that the inclusion of Yaya would signal a similar, slow, uninspired performance as last season's fixture at Anfield. The match was totally lost in midfield with Liverpool overrunning us entirely.
I don't think it would have mattered who we played today, anyy2 would have been overrun. Klopp's player's are just fitter than the rest of the league. The gut specializes in buying energizer bunnys for his system. So I'm not going to pretend it was just Yaya who couldn't cope. No one could until they backed off.
 
So I'm not going to pretend it was just Yaya who couldn't cope.

Neither am I, as I stated at the beginning of the post.

Yaya can still be an important player for us but not in all our matches and the other day was an example of one where I'd rather he didn't start. You might think that it wouldn't matter who we played because of Liverpool's high energy but, out of all of our central midfielders, Yaya is the most susceptible to being caught out by that kind of team.

It's not a dig at Yaya, we just chose the wrong tool for the job and I thought I'd acknowledge asahartford1's post as it was prematurely shot down by the abuser of ellipses.
 
Neither am I, as I stated at the beginning of the post.

Yaya can still be an important player for us but not in all our matches and the other day was an example of one where I'd rather he didn't start. You might think that it wouldn't matter who we played because of Liverpool's high energy but, out of all of our central midfielders, Yaya is the most susceptible to being caught out by that kind of team.

It's not a dig at Yaya, we just chose the wrong tool for the job and I thought I'd acknowledge asahartford1's post as it was prematurely shot down by the abuser of ellipses.
Lol.
 
Neither am I, as I stated at the beginning of the post.

Yaya can still be an important player for us but not in all our matches and the other day was an example of one where I'd rather he didn't start. You might think that it wouldn't matter who we played because of Liverpool's high energy but, out of all of our central midfielders, Yaya is the most susceptible to being caught out by that kind of team.

It's not a dig at Yaya, we just chose the wrong tool for the job and I thought I'd acknowledge asahartford1's post as it was prematurely shot down by the abuser of ellipses.

Who'd you rather in midfield over Yaya, Fernando?
 
In that specific match? Absolutely.
I think Fernando while a better tackler is actually just as slow as Yaya, and with less technique on the ball.

The kind of players Liverpool plays in the middle are just complete harassers. Wiljdanun, Henderson, Can, Milner, etc are all well rounded CMs with workhorse engines. It's the kind of player Klopp targets. You can add the Cameroonian future Kompany at CB too. These guys plus their Tweener forwards, Lalana, Cutihno, and Firming make like difficult for anyone.

As I was watching the game all I could think was how easily Sterling would have fit into this Pool team. As he too has that engine.

We simply don't have it as consistently on our team.
 
Me too,i said that before the game he is not great against high intensity team,dinho had to work twice as hard and didn't have a good game as a result
Dihno was just poor, had nothing to do with how much harder he worked.
 
Well done yaya. When dinho went off he really stepped up and for the remainder of that half he put in a hell of a shift. Great stuff big man.
 
another really good display though he was shot with 15 to go, surprised he didnt get subbed off but there we go, well played
 
Bar the Liverpool game where he was just okay, he's been so important for us. As disciplined as ever in that deeper midfield role, he keeps it up and he's on for a year extension to his contract.
 
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