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Yes it won't be received well on here as it's crap.
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Yaya Toure apologises
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gordondaviesmoustache
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You're talking about the nuclear option like it's a bad thing.Won't be received well here, but the way Yaya situation has being handled is poor and does not paint the club or manager in good light. Saying a player has to apologize for the actions of another individual makes no sense. If true, telling Yaya this through the media is 100x worse. If he really wanted the apology, he should have had done through private channels. Going public was basically nuclear option, and he surely knows a apology is not coming now.
It seems Yaya was not in the plans of this manager. He doesn't have justify or provide reasons as to why Yaya is not in the side as team has perfect record. All he had to say is Yaya has been professional, but I can't make changes to the team, and I hope he will get a chance to contribute.
Too many here have the emotional maturity of 13 year olds.
Yaya is not playing because he does not fit Pep's system. Simple as that. He wasn't playing before agents comments. Pep getting into a pissing contest with his agent makes him look vindictive and serves no purpose. It doesn't look like his agent will apologize, then what? If Yaya is not going to play, then what purposes is he serving? Why not just release him with all the money due? If they keep him around while telling him he won't play then its PURELY VINDICTIVENESS! Before you could have made the argument that he would be cover for injury crisis or he could play in league cup games with the kids, but Pep has come out and said he will never play without apology (which is not coming).
Pep should have taken the high road and ignored his agents comments. Instead what will happen is Yaya will get his free release in the Jan period (with probably full payment), and what does the club get in return? Possible distraction, bad press, and horrible way to break ties with one of the more influential players of the club.
Yaya is not playing because he does not fit Pep's system. Simple as that. He wasn't playing before agents comments. Pep getting into a pissing contest with his agent makes him look vindictive and serves no purpose. It doesn't look like his agent will apologize, then what? If Yaya is not going to play, then what purposes is he serving? Why not just release him with all the money due? If they keep him around while telling him he won't play then its PURELY VINDICTIVENESS! Before you could have made the argument that he would be cover for injury crisis or he could play in league cup games with the kids, but Pep has come out and said he will never play without apology (which is not coming).
Pep should have taken the high road and ignored his agents comments. Instead what will happen is Yaya will get his free release in the Jan period (with probably full payment), and what does the club get in return? Possible distraction, bad press, and horrible way to break ties with one of the more influential players of the club.
andyhinch
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Why do you think discussions haven't gone on behind closed doors first ? when this has failed showing his agent who speaks for Yaya as a pair of disrespectful cunts and letting others know it's my way or the highway is exactly the correct corse of action. If you can't see that your in cloud cuckoo landWon't be received well here, but the way Yaya situation has being handled is poor and does not paint the club or manager in good light. Saying a player has to apologize for the actions of another individual makes no sense. If true, telling Yaya this through the media is 100x worse. If he really wanted the apology, he should have had done through private channels. Going public was basically nuclear option, and he surely knows a apology is not coming now.
It seems Yaya was not in the plans of this manager. He doesn't have justify or provide reasons as to why Yaya is not in the side as team has perfect record. All he had to say is Yaya has been professional, but I can't make changes to the team, and I hope he will get a chance to contribute.
Won't be received well here, but the way Yaya situation has being handled is poor and does not paint the club or manager in good light. Saying a player has to apologize for the actions of another individual makes no sense. If true, telling Yaya this through the media is 100x worse. If he really wanted the apology, he should have had done through private channels. Going public was basically nuclear option, and he surely knows a apology is not coming now.
It seems Yaya was not in the plans of this manager. He doesn't have justify or provide reasons as to why Yaya is not in the side as team has perfect record. All he had to say is Yaya has been professional, but I can't make changes to the team, and I hope he will get a chance to contribute.
If it had been a one off comment by the agent then perhaps you would have a point. But this latest outburst falls into "final straw" territory.
As for saying that Yaya can't make the team, that's just not credible before a game when Guardiola is planning to field a heavily weakened team and would normally have wanted to have Yaya in the squad to at least make up the numbers. His absence yesterday just couldn't be explained as a football decision.
Too many here have the emotional maturity of 13 year olds.
Yaya is not playing because he does not fit Pep's system. Simple as that. He wasn't playing before agents comments. Pep getting into a pissing contest with his agent makes him look vindictive and serves no purpose. It doesn't look like his agent will apologize, then what? If Yaya is not going to play, then what purposes is he serving? Why not just release him with all the money due? If they keep him around while telling him he won't play then its PURELY VINDICTIVENESS! Before you could have made the argument that he would be cover for injury crisis or he could play in league cup games with the kids, but Pep has come out and said he will never play without apology (which is not coming).
Pep should have taken the high road and ignored his agents comments. Instead what will happen is Yaya will get his free release in the Jan period (with probably full payment), and what does the club get in return? Possible distraction, bad press, and horrible way to break ties with one of the more influential players of the club.
You're jumping to conclusions as a 13 year old would.
We dont know what has happened during YaYa's four day absence with an headache.
I'm sure it will surface eventually.
sir baconface
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Why "release him with all the money he is due"? That would be capitulation.
Any successful negotiation involves compromises. When one side refuses to compromise, then, unless they hold all the cards, they are inviting the other side to get heavy.
Any successful negotiation involves compromises. When one side refuses to compromise, then, unless they hold all the cards, they are inviting the other side to get heavy.
quiet_riot
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i will piss my pants if he rocks up at United on a free. Absolutely hilarious, and will confirm he gives a shit more about money and having a go at us than his career.
cleavers
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Ian Wright was on BBC breakfast this morning, talking about his upcoming book, and talking about people in his career/life, he said the way Yaya and his agent were acting was very disrespectful to the club and fans.
Neville Kneville
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Too many here have the emotional maturity of 13 year olds.
Yaya is not playing because he does not fit Pep's system. Simple as that. He wasn't playing before agents comments. Pep getting into a pissing contest with his agent makes him look vindictive and serves no purpose. It doesn't look like his agent will apologize, then what? If Yaya is not going to play, then what purposes is he serving? Why not just release him with all the money due? If they keep him around while telling him he won't play then its PURELY VINDICTIVENESS! Before you could have made the argument that he would be cover for injury crisis or he could play in league cup games with the kids, but Pep has come out and said he will never play without apology (which is not coming).
Pep should have taken the high road and ignored his agents comments. Instead what will happen is Yaya will get his free release in the Jan period (with probably full payment), and what does the club get in return? Possible distraction, bad press, and horrible way to break ties with one of the more influential players of the club.
Except that the only 'bad press' City are getting is from you.
Everyone else is giving Yaya shit for not backing us.
So you are wrong & that's that.
Dubai Blue
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Interesting. Because I'm sure I remember rumours of Ian Wright acting like a prick when SWP was at the club second time around. And wasn't he involved in the Garry Cook email episode?Ian Wright was on BBC breakfast this morning, talking about his upcoming book, and talking about people in his career/life, he said the way Yaya and his agent were acting was very disrespectful to the club and fans.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/yaya-toure-pep-guardiola-manchester-city
Yaya Touré stung to learn of Pep Guardiola’s cold shoulder via media
- The Ivorian was bemused to find out via the media rather than be informed personally by Guardiola of his changed status
- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
Yaya Touré stung to learn of Pep Guardiola’s cold shoulder via media
- The Ivorian was bemused to find out via the media rather than be informed personally by Guardiola of his changed status
- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
Neville Kneville
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/yaya-toure-pep-guardiola-manchester-city
Yaya Touré stung to learn of Pep Guardiola’s cold shoulder via media
- The Ivorian was bemused to find out via the media rather than be informed personally by Guardiola of his changed status
- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
Well he should come out & tell us all how he doesn't agree with his agent then.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/yaya-toure-pep-guardiola-manchester-city
Yaya Touré stung to learn of Pep Guardiola’s cold shoulder via media
- The Ivorian was bemused to find out via the media rather than be informed personally by Guardiola of his changed status
- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
It's his fucking agent. If he doesn't wanna be punished cos of his agent then he should tell the stupid **** to shut up or he'll get a new agent. He'd soon shut up then.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Stung, bemused and disappointed. Sounds like a typical marriage.https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/yaya-toure-pep-guardiola-manchester-city
Yaya Touré stung to learn of Pep Guardiola’s cold shoulder via media
- The Ivorian was bemused to find out via the media rather than be informed personally by Guardiola of his changed status
- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
andyhinch
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If anyone believes there has been no dialogue between them they need to give their head a wobblehttps://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/yaya-toure-pep-guardiola-manchester-city
Yaya Touré stung to learn of Pep Guardiola’s cold shoulder via media
- The Ivorian was bemused to find out via the media rather than be informed personally by Guardiola of his changed status
- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
Dubai Blue
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- the player is disappointed at how he has been treated by Guardiola given his professional attitude, believing he should not be penalised for the actions of Seluk.
I just can't understand that point of view at all. This isn't just about one comment; it's about a whole string of comments over the last few years and Toure has had plenty of opportunity to let the club know in public or private that Seluk doesn't speak for him. The fact that he hasn't done this (and has in fact confirmed in the past that Seluk DOES speak for him) means he hasn't got a leg to stand on. The sooner both of them are away from our club the better.
I just can't understand that point of view at all. This isn't just about one comment; it's about a whole string of comments over the last few years and Toure has had plenty of opportunity to let the club know in public or private that Seluk doesn't speak for him. The fact that he hasn't done this (and has in fact confirmed in the past that Seluk DOES speak for him) means he hasn't got a leg to stand on. The sooner both of them are away from our club the better.
Neville Kneville
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There are several running stories that he's annoyed with Seluk rather than City.
Neville Kneville
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If anyone believes there has been no dialogue between them they need to give their head a wobble
I can believe it tbf.
Pep is not the 'one of the boys' kind of bloke he sometimes appears to be.
He didn't even look at Ibrahimovic for quite some time according to Balague's book.
andyhinch
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I'm sorry, if your managing a company and you have a problem with an asset, you address it, he will have said what needs to be said and moved on to the next step, if you don't think this happened in both cases you really don't understand buissnessI can believe it tbf.
Pep is not the 'one of the boys' kind of bloke he sometimes appears to be.
He didn't even look at Ibrahimovic for quite some time according to Balague's book.