yaya.....

Worringly he was still blowing late in the second half in a game where we hardly moved into 2nd gear, folk can put any spin they want on it but a fitter yaya may well have performed more than the 1 loco trick and we've ('citeh') got the mullah to purchase such an individual.
 
I can't believe what I'm reading, do you all have a memory span of one football match? Yaya is one of the most reliable players in the league, he very rarely loses the ball due to his strength, speed and skill.
 
909 passes attempted by Yaya Touré in the league this season, more than any other player. With a 91.4% completion.
 
Paulski said:
I can't believe what I'm reading, do you all have a memory span of one football match? Yaya is one of the most reliable players in the league, he very rarely loses the ball due to his strength, speed and skill.
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I can't believe you've read what you're reading.
 
Yaya will have 2 careers. One as the marauding midfielder and another as the deep lying playmaker. Perhaps it won't be with us. Maybe in Italy. But he will play at the top level for as long as he so chooses.
 
Paulski said:
I can't believe what I'm reading, do you all have a memory span of one football match? Yaya is one of the most reliable players in the league, he very rarely loses the ball due to his strength, speed and skill.
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however....his defending isn't the best.

IMO, Yaya is playing in the wrong position. He should playing behind the striker.
 
totalfootball said:
Paulski said:
I can't believe what I'm reading, do you all have a memory span of one football match? Yaya is one of the most reliable players in the league, he very rarely loses the ball due to his strength, speed and skill.
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however....his defending isn't the best.

IMO, Yaya is playing in the wrong position. He should playing behind the striker.
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Ferny is definitely the better defender of the two, but as Yaya almost never gives the ball away regardless of his position on the pitch (he makes some cracking passes at the top of the pitch) that makes up for his defensive frailties. I always thought that a team made up of ten Yayas would probably kick arse, he's the most complete player we've got in my eyes.

On another note it's pretty funny how Fernandinho is turning into a Yaya MkII with his gallops forward, I love it!
 
bonespost said:
909 passes attempted by Yaya Touré in the league this season, more than any other player. With a 91.4% completion.
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Paulski said:
I can't believe what I'm reading, do you all have a memory span of one football match? Yaya is one of the most reliable players in the league, he very rarely loses the ball due to his strength, speed and skill.
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This is not his problem. He is reliable with the ball, he rarely gives it away. He can be a powerful and damaging running machine driving us forward from midfield to the box in seconds.

He also doesn't work hard enough to win the ball back at times (especially in non- big games), he is very immobile off the mark so if the opposition have players who have a bit of speed or quick feet/passing - and especially if he's in just a two man central midfield - he is easily bypassed. He's often very petulant, slamming the ball down at times when he disagrees with the ref or clips the heels of opponents when they've run past him.

He should only play in central midfield if we play with one up front and he's in a three man central midfield, or he should play further forward.

In the most important games he's usually our most important player, he's our biggest of big game players. But not all of our games carry the same importance.
 
I had wondered, with Yaya having turned thirty, whether we'd seen the last of those gut-busting surges. but not a bit of it. Dodging behind the Spurs centre-backs, swapping passes first with Fernandinho then with Negredo, shrugging off thicko Walker like a lion swatting a fly then the perfect ball for Aguero to score-he was right at the heart of a fabulous team goal.
 
grahamgor said:
I had wondered, with Yaya having turned thirty, whether we'd seen the last of those gut-busting surges. but not a bit of it. Dodging behind the Spurs centre-backs, swapping passes first with Fernandinho then with Negredo, shrugging off thicko Walker like a lion swatting a fly then the perfect ball for Aguero to score-he was right at the heart of a fabulous team goal.
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One moment of quality doesn't make for a good performance - unless you're watching the highlights on MOTD. Like many other times this season (and last), he was ineffective....almost totally so in the first half and then coming into the game a little more in the second, but of our midfield and strikers he added the least to our overall performance. It's a good job ferdy has a good engine on him to cover Yaya's lack of mobility.

When Silva is back I'd actually start with the same team as yesterday, just swapping Yaya for him as a deep lying playmaker. His workrate is far more than Yaya's and he gets stuck in more too. Other teams use their most creative players in a similar fashion - Alonson, Pirlo, Xavi etc are all generally more deep lying midfielders - and sitting alongside Ferdy he'll have licence to get forward and support the front 2.

And for the people who quote the "he's made more passes than any other PL player" - hey, even I can collect the ball off the defender and pass it 10 yards square to the next defender.

Perhaps I'm being greedy here, but I expect something a little extra from the guy on the best wage in the PL.

I'm already dreading Southampton away again, where their workrate will make Yaya look about as effective as he did in last year's game.
 
ChichesterBlue said:
grahamgor said:
I had wondered, with Yaya having turned thirty, whether we'd seen the last of those gut-busting surges. but not a bit of it. Dodging behind the Spurs centre-backs, swapping passes first with Fernandinho then with Negredo, shrugging off thicko Walker like a lion swatting a fly then the perfect ball for Aguero to score-he was right at the heart of a fabulous team goal.
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One moment of quality doesn't make for a good performance - unless you're watching the highlights on MOTD. Like many other times this season (and last), he was ineffective....almost totally so in the first half and then coming into the game a little more in the second, but of our midfield and strikers he added the least to our overall performance. It's a good job ferdy has a good engine on him to cover Yaya's lack of mobility.

When Silva is back I'd actually start with the same team as yesterday, just swapping Yaya for him as a deep lying playmaker. His workrate is far more than Yaya's and he gets stuck in more too. Other teams use their most creative players in a similar fashion - Alonson, Pirlo, Xavi etc are all generally more deep lying midfielders - and sitting alongside Ferdy he'll have licence to get forward and support the front 2.

And for the people who quote the "he's made more passes than any other PL player" - hey, even I can collect the ball off the defender and pass it 10 yards square to the next defender.

Perhaps I'm being greedy here, but I expect something a little extra from the guy on the best wage in the PL.

I'm already dreading Southampton away again, where their workrate will make Yaya look about as effective as he did in last year's game.
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Don't give up your day job
 
ChichesterBlue said:
grahamgor said:
I had wondered, with Yaya having turned thirty, whether we'd seen the last of those gut-busting surges. but not a bit of it. Dodging behind the Spurs centre-backs, swapping passes first with Fernandinho then with Negredo, shrugging off thicko Walker like a lion swatting a fly then the perfect ball for Aguero to score-he was right at the heart of a fabulous team goal.
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One moment of quality doesn't make for a good performance - unless you're watching the highlights on MOTD. Like many other times this season (and last), he was ineffective....almost totally so in the first half and then coming into the game a little more in the second, but of our midfield and strikers he added the least to our overall performance. It's a good job ferdy has a good engine on him to cover Yaya's lack of mobility.

When Silva is back I'd actually start with the same team as yesterday, just swapping Yaya for him as a deep lying playmaker. His workrate is far more than Yaya's and he gets stuck in more too. Other teams use their most creative players in a similar fashion - Alonson, Pirlo, Xavi etc are all generally more deep lying midfielders - and sitting alongside Ferdy he'll have licence to get forward and support the front 2.

And for the people who quote the "he's made more passes than any other PL player" - hey, even I can collect the ball off the defender and pass it 10 yards square to the next defender.

Perhaps I'm being greedy here, but I expect something a little extra from the guy on the best wage in the PL.

I'm already dreading Southampton away again, where their workrate will make Yaya look about as effective as he did in last year's game.
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Could'nt have said it better meself...though i would have added YaYa's little pitter/patter steps that he only employs when he's out of the play and he's already decided he's no chance of catching it .....are disconcerting....almost taking the piss. Blowing for the last 1/4 v Spurs, the run was a gud 'en no mistake but it's a good job they were'nt a team wanting a do back at us cause YaYa was'nt in it..poor that in this day and age for a professional footballer.
 
Is it just me that thinks that yellow was a blessing in disguise?
Realistically, we are not going to top the group and we've got Arsenal after
 
Ya ya is brilliant under pressure....give him the ball with players around him and he keeps it or passes to another city player. Stats don't show this sort of skill and this is why he is often played in front of the defence, It gives the defence a great outlet, yes he may pass the ball sideways but it has normally taken a couple of opposition players out and a bales other players to create a telling pass
 
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