Yet more bile... this time from the Evening Standard

No probem, i have read the book on it and you have to admire the way they remember the deceased payers. I can assure you they wouldn't have anything similar to the sponsored by AIG in Turin.
 
They had a great side at the time, hadn't they won 3-4 straight league titles before the crash?
 
philiph20 said:
I think the bloke who wrote the article is a Spurs fan which figures.

fair enough

they've never had a rich owner that sold the league down the river in the hope of satellite dish sales

never brought in foreign mercenaries

and they've never spent any money whatsoever in pursuit of progress

a true football purists club that one....
 
They won four on the trot.

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I have cut and pasted this from an Arsenal site

CB - the way that the club has milked, abused and sullied the memory of the dead for financial gain time after time, whilst the families and survivors were ignored by the club, is one of the biggest disgraces in football history. The modern club is, in every way, built on their suffering.

Compare and contrast with the actions of Torino after their own plane disaster, which in terms of playing ability cost them far far more than Munich cost United, and you see how a club with decency acts.

In fact City are the Manchester club that come out of the disaster with credit because they put their whole staff at the disposal of the families in the immediate aftermath and have never sought any recognition for their actions.




CB - the way that the club has milked, abused and sullied the memory of the dead for financial gain time after time, whilst the families and survivors were ignored by the club, is one of the biggest disgraces in football history. The modern club is, in every way, built on their suffering.

Compare and contrast with the actions of Torino after their own plane disaster, which in terms of playing ability cost them far far more than Munich cost United, and you see how a club with decency acts.

In fact City are the Manchester club that come out of the disaster with credit because they put their whole staff at the disposal of the families in the immediate aftermath and have never sought any recognition for their actions.
 
Will said:
Longlasting success has to be earned, not bought.

^ Is this an immutable law of the universe or something, as you appear to be promoting it as such?

So a club's ability to compete on the pitch should be defined by how many shirts it sells in Singapore?

You haven't earned fuck all. What you've done is completely skew the way finances in football are organised for your benefit and to the detriment of others. How is that earning success? It sounds like cheating to me. A sort of "financial doping" if you will.
 
Who is this fuckin idiot Will, some middleclass private educated dickwad.... He says proudly about Stretfords record attendances in the 1970/80's were the best.......... oh really Will.......... ahem, just a little flavour to this then

Season 1987-88

Ground Capacity 56,385

Runners up to the magnificent Liverpool team of the day.......
just some of the fantastic attendances by those loyal fans

aug 23 Watford 38,582
oct 17 Oxford Utd 34,709

oh hang on, heres a big one

nov 15 Liverpool (biggest game of the season, apparently) 47,106

oh dear....
jan 16 Southampton 35,716
mar 12 Sheffield Wed 33,318

hang on, there is a picture developing here........

april 11 Luton town 28,830

oh its okay, were on a five match winning run

april 30 QPR 35,733

oh shit, last game of the season

May 9 Wimbledon 28,040

FACTS are a good thing Wills
 
please please don't ban will. i thought he was well funny but the comment about the stadium being 2/3 full against sunderland was priceless. let him carry on. he is cheering me up big time.
 
The one thing that Will and his ilk fail to understand is it doesn't really matter to us if success is short lived or not lived at all because we will STILL be here.

To support City is and always has been an honour. We have something they don't and that is we look out for our own.

CTID and proud of it.
 
Will said:
Yes Will you are quite right, yoonitid made there money by being succcesfull, not by launching themselves on the stock market which of course is what allowed Uncle Malcolm to buy you out and load you up with debt.


This would have been a good point. If we hadn't been the most successful club 'before' the Glazers came along.



But of course it is better to be in debt to a Johnny Foreigner than being given money by one isn't it.


Rather not be in debt at all. And Jonny foreigner's money has its price. 'The Etihad' stadium?

And I don't think City's money is sustainable. The Etihad looked about 2/3 full for the Sunderland game, one where the team is chasing its first title for decades. How will you get around the FFP rules when they come in? Not by cheating and corruption, surely.[/quote]

Will dear boy, delusion is an illness suffered by many, unfortunately it seems that most of the sufferers support your pathtic lot. Your reply that I have highlighted made me laugh so loud I woke the cat. Like most Rags you don't know history before 1992. Let me remind you of your success in the league. You won it in 1968 and you then won it again in 1992, hardly 'the most succesful club'. In that 24 year gap there was a team called Liverpool but you wouldn't know that would you, your plastics never mention them do they. Oh wait, now I know why you hate tem so much.
Oh and one other thought, if our Johnny Foreigner gets bored and leaves we only have the players wages that can be classed as debt. If good ol' Unkie Malc gets bored of the green and yellow protests, or thinks you are no longer a cash cow to be milked, you will have more debt than Rangers, the RBS and my wife put together.
 
Will said:
That's a convenient rewriting of history. I must've imagined the numerous times you've broken the British transfer record, and the paucity of success in the 70s and 80s.

Yes, the money United have spent in the last fifteen or so years has been earned since we started winning the league again in 92/93.

And even when we weren 't winning titles United's gate receipts were bigger than anyone else's as United's brand of football was attractive enough to draw the crowds during the time when we had to settle for the odd cup succeess.

So, United's money comes from success on the pitch, not a lottery win.[/quote]

Really, have you never seen your club's attendance figures from the first half of the 90s? Because if you look, you'll see they were actually rather basic, and only grew after a couple of title wins. Theory shattered.
 
mancyman said:
please please don't ban will. i thought he was well funny but the comment about the stadium being 2/3 full against sunderland was priceless. let him carry on. he is cheering me up big time.

I think she's run out of untrue cliches.

Foreign sugar daddy- check
buying success- check
homegrown/youth/cheap players- check
Arabs- check
Manchester full of unt fans- check

And every plastics current favourite, empty seats- check.

Can't be many left now but will is probably scouring facebook as i type
 
Theres a reason it's called the 'Evening Standard' !!

It's cos any news they print whether true or false is hours behind anyone else.
 
so the rags didn't buy success

they didn't rape everton for rooney

and they don't pay him for 250K per week

there weren't over thirty thousand empty seats against Palace either

hypocrites
 
I love how the rags are quick to point out "empty seats" when a 30 second search would show that every league game sells out, so these tickets are sold.

Just like what looked to be around 3,000 empty seats at United vs. Fulham last week were probably sold too.

It's a very easy thing to do, look (stolen from Twitter):

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I'd like to thank Will actually, for once again reminding me with every post why I detest that club and their so called fans with a burning passion that will never diminish.

Plastic and arrogant in equal measure, detestable almost beyond belief.
I am sure he will back posting as soon as daddy has finished playing their special game.
 
west didsblue said:
coleridge said:
Anyway, I noted the magic lamp reference. As I said in September 2008, the pro-zionist media are apoplectic at the very idea of 'Arabs' owning one of the most successful clubs in the world. They've had to tone it down since the likes of Barca and Malaga got into bed with the Qataris, as has the whole of FIFA [allegedly, according to some, can't believe it myself, like].

However, it adds to the lazy and/or corrupt journo's vision of the world that Fergie is crowned every May. At the same time, no-one is allowed to comment on the religion of the Glaziers, or Roman for that matter [although I've heard the odd murmur in the press recently], or otherwise discuss where their money comes from.
Pro-zionist media???? Have you read the Guardian, watched the BBC or Sky recently. Who said no-ones allowed to comment on the religion of the Glazers or Roman - it's just not relevant. I don't want want to get into politics but you're talking shite.

As Chutzpah is the original art of talking shite, I'll bow to your in-depth knowledge and immense expertise. BTW West Didsbury is my spiritual home and a place of great tolerance. That's why your abusive post is so disappointing but, I suppose, that's the school holidays for you...
 
Perhaps Will has also forgotten about the abolition of shared gate receipts in the early 80s that would grant big city teams like United an undeniable advantage over the likes of Forest, Norwich etc.

But most importantly as many have observed the stock exchange flotation did so much to 'earn' (ie give United a grossly unfair advantage) them money is now so hilariously the reason for their foreign ownership and massive debts.
 

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