You knew it was coming: City can't buy team spirit

Skashion said:
standupefc said:
From what I've read on this forum most City fans admit that they would struggle to watch us play every week.
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28,000 average in the third flight whilst our neighbours were winning the treble. Get over yourself.
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WE'RE NOT REALLY HERE! Well said Skashion.
 
standupefc said:
but City players have only moved to City for financial purposes nobody can deny that.
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Not to play in the Champions League?
Or to challenge for the Premier League?
Or to have a very good chance at either of the domestic cups?
Or to boost their own profile, resulting in international caps?
See, there's your argument ripped to shreds.

But as you're so obsessed with players playing for money, riddle me this one Mickey. What possible reason, other than a handsome wage packet, would make a player want to stay at/move to Everton?
 
standupefc said:
Obviously everybody needs to get paid to survive, but City players have only moved to City for financial purposes nobody can deny that. The vast majority of your players are on than 60 000 a week. Every City fan I've spoken to admits that their players are only their for the huge wages on offer. TBH your fans are pretty good, but you were virtaully guarenteed 3 points as soon as the team sheets were read out. Everton fans don't have anything, just like when you came our place a few season ago your fans were awful because you were totally outplayed. There was nothing to sing about yesterday, and the vast majority of passionate fans have given up going now due to the mess our club is in. From what I've read on this forum most City fans admit that they would struggle to watch us play every week. We are a club without any ambition other than avoiding relegation, there is no financial plan, we haven't bought a player in 2 years. City fans have got a lot to sing about, you have excellent players, an excellent stadium and you can buy any player you want. We've got an unknown Argentine you've got Tevez and Ageuro, basically I think we're becoming the next West Ham really we're just waiting to be relegated.
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So why have Everton's players moved there? You have literally NOTHING to offer as an organisation beyond the fact you can remunerate players, at least we can also offer a strong possibility of domestic success and a reasonable possibility of European success.
 
Obviously everybody needs to get paid to survive, but City players have only moved to City for financial purposes nobody can deny that.
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Haha, I love the stupidity of this repeating mantra..

I guess United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool Everton, Barcelona... are being paid with Pepsi per game and they play for their teams for fun.
 
southern muppet said:
Exactly, there is literally no reason in the world for a non-scouser to actively want to join Everton other than the fact they were the best financial option on offer.

I mean seriously, what does this guy suggest are possible reasons or motivations?
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I've got a theory now, come to think of it.

If you're playing FOR Everton, you won't be subjected to their complete thuggery on the pitch.

That is the only genuine reason I can think of.
 
An Everton fan that actually knows summat about his own teams history unlike the know-nowt hypocrites :
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''"The Bank of England Club"

just a couple of nicknames that were thrown at Everton by spiteful fans of rival clubs as we bought the best players in the league and won the title in 1963 after our new chairman sacked a manager in the back of a taxi in London

I wonder if that reminds anyone of any other clubs that are doing anything similar today? Sacking a good manager who was in the job before the new owners took over, just to get their own man in? Or throwing money around to buy extravagant players who would otherwise not have joined their club?

I wonder if the people who say they would stop watching Everton if they ever "just bought the league" would be supporting us if they'd been alive in the 60's?

And I wonder if people who are desperate for us not to "sell our souls" have read any of our history books?

You win things in football by having the best players. You get the best players by paying the best money. Would Dixie Dean have been allowed to join Everton if we hadn't been the highest bidders? Would Everton even have been allowed in the Football League if Bootle Town had been a professional club with as weighty finances as ourselves? Would Alan Ball have come to Everton if John Moores hadn't funded Harry Catterick's spending spree that won us the league and FA Cup in the 60's?

It might be the "in" thing for the media to verbally rape any new owner who comes into a club in the Premier League and dares to change things to be the way they want the club run, but it has ALWAYS been the way of football, and it always will be. Whether it's fashionable to hate it or not, whether it's your club or someone else, it is the way that football has always been - and it's something Everton have benefited from in the past, and hopefully will be again.

Football has moved on though, and a millionaire simply isn't enough anymore. There are people out there buying football clubs, but not Everton. Yet. But when it happens it can only be good for us.''
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http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=9403.0
 
Balti said:
An Everton fan that actually knows summat about his own teams history unlike the know-nowt hypocrites :
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''"The Bank of England Club"

just a couple of nicknames that were thrown at Everton by spiteful fans of rival clubs as we bought the best players in the league and won the title in 1963 after our new chairman sacked a manager in the back of a taxi in London

I wonder if that reminds anyone of any other clubs that are doing anything similar today? Sacking a good manager who was in the job before the new owners took over, just to get their own man in? Or throwing money around to buy extravagant players who would otherwise not have joined their club?

I wonder if the people who say they would stop watching Everton if they ever "just bought the league" would be supporting us if they'd been alive in the 60's?

And I wonder if people who are desperate for us not to "sell our souls" have read any of our history books?

You win things in football by having the best players. You get the best players by paying the best money. Would Dixie Dean have been allowed to join Everton if we hadn't been the highest bidders? Would Everton even have been allowed in the Football League if Bootle Town had been a professional club with as weighty finances as ourselves? Would Alan Ball have come to Everton if John Moores hadn't funded Harry Catterick's spending spree that won us the league and FA Cup in the 60's?

It might be the "in" thing for the media to verbally rape any new owner who comes into a club in the Premier League and dares to change things to be the way they want the club run, but it has ALWAYS been the way of football, and it always will be. Whether it's fashionable to hate it or not, whether it's your club or someone else, it is the way that football has always been - and it's something Everton have benefited from in the past, and hopefully will be again.

Football has moved on though, and a millionaire simply isn't enough anymore. There are people out there buying football clubs, but not Everton. Yet. But when it happens it can only be good for us.''
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http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=9403.0
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Great find. To quote Woody Allen, Everton fans must feel: "My one regret in life is that I am not someone else."
 
southern muppet said:
standupefc said:
Obviously everybody needs to get paid to survive, but City players have only moved to City for financial purposes nobody can deny that. The vast majority of your players are on than 60 000 a week. Every City fan I've spoken to admits that their players are only their for the huge wages on offer. TBH your fans are pretty good, but you were virtaully guarenteed 3 points as soon as the team sheets were read out. Everton fans don't have anything, just like when you came our place a few season ago your fans were awful because you were totally outplayed. There was nothing to sing about yesterday, and the vast majority of passionate fans have given up going now due to the mess our club is in. From what I've read on this forum most City fans admit that they would struggle to watch us play every week. We are a club without any ambition other than avoiding relegation, there is no financial plan, we haven't bought a player in 2 years. City fans have got a lot to sing about, you have excellent players, an excellent stadium and you can buy any player you want. We've got an unknown Argentine you've got Tevez and Ageuro, basically I think we're becoming the next West Ham really we're just waiting to be relegated.
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So why have Everton's players moved there? You have literally NOTHING to offer as an organisation beyond the fact you can remunerate players, at least we can also offer a strong possibility of domestic success and a reasonable possibility of European success.
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Because Everton have history and we don't???

Come on Southern Muppet we all know that every player would die to wear the Everton shirt because they WERE one of the most successful English clubs.... players don't want to tell their grandchildren in 50 years time about how they won the premier league or the champions league with man city they want to tell them how they fought relegation with the once great Everton!!!
 
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