Your Most Unhinged Football Take?

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OnlyOneUweRosler

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What is your most unhinged football take, the take that has your mates headshaking? For me it is this:

Maradonna's goal in 1986 was not that good

I said it. That is because a) pretty much nobody challenged him until he was in the box, so that makes it like every other goal, not the false description that he rounded the whole team from the halfway line, and b) it was actually an own goal because Terry Butcher got the last touch.

Judge me if you will, but that's my piece. How about yours?
 
Blue Til Death said:
Especially when a 5 foot 5 forward out jumps a 6 foot 1 keeper in the process …
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The tinfoil hat side of me wonders if the decision to give the goal was part of a wider attack on English football. Previous year was Heisel and the 5-year ban. Maybe the 1986 incident was another way international football authorities wanted to teach England a lesson?
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
What is your most unhinged football take, the take that has your mates headshaking? For me it is this:

Maradonna's goal in 1986 was not that good

I said it. That is because a) pretty much nobody challenged him until he was in the box, so that makes it like every other goal, not the false description that he rounded the whole team from the halfway line, and b) it was actually an own goal because Terry Butcher got the last touch.

Judge me if you will, but that's my piece. How about yours?
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Annoying as your well made point may be (no challenges), he didn't allow them to challenge him.
Like when we get dismissed for beating a team that 'didn't turn up'. We make that happen by being so good.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
The tinfoil hat side of me wonders if the decision to give the goal was part of a wider attack on English football. Previous year was Heisel and the 5-year ban. Maybe the 1986 incident was another way international football authorities wanted to teach England a lesson?
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You could well be right mate, the only people in the known universe who pretended not to see the most blatant handball in history of football were the officials ..!
 
Blue Til Death said:
You could well be right mate, the only people in the known universe who pretended not to see the most blatant handball in history of football were the officials ..!
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Maybe there was a general attack on not just English, but British football. In that same era, Dundee United (!) were 2-0 up from the first leg of a European Cup (now Champions League) semi-final, and in the replay it is now widely accepted were cheated out of it by corrupt officials to make sure Roma won the return 3-0, and so 3-2 on aggregate. Apparently Roma were hosting the final that season and were desperate to make the final. When Dundee United looked like they would stop them, brown envelopes got exchanged.
 
ActonBlue said:
Ricky Villa's solo goal against us in the 81 final was hugely overrated. Rank bad defending, no one put in a challenge. And the c**t reduced a 10 year old me to tears.
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It was a semi-decent goal, but as you say, he didn't really get challenged until he was way in the danger zone and left Corrigan no choice but to come out and basically invite a shot.
 
Here’s one - None of the title winning teams in the 80s or 90s would finish top 4 in an equivalent league today ( yeah fuck off with the age jokes). In fact i’d go as far to say, the top half of todays Championship would finish top half in 80s 90s top flight league football.

nothing to do with the quality of the top end footballers but the influx of foreign coaches and players in quality has taken it up several levels. The City team of 2023 would best any team historically
 
I really liked Liverpool as a team when I was a lad. No one in school was a Liverpool supporter- basically a straight split between City and United.
I also was supporting any English or Scottish team in European games (bar 1).

That all changed at Heysel in relation to Liverpool. It was hideous watching it unfold on tv.
By the time English clubs were allowed back in Europe, I’d almost reached maturity and understood more about the ‘world’… it became clear that at club level you couldn’t support ‘English’ teams anymore, it had become tribalised … the rise of the CL as the only European trophy that mattered, the demise of the CWC, the sidelining of the uefa cup… then cemented it
 
Silva Citizen said:
Ryan Giggs “great dribble” goal was only a goal because of poor keeping. Had Seaman stood up it would have been just another attempt at goal
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I agree. If you watch that goal, he doesn't really "beat" anyone, he just has half a yard on two Arsenal defenders as they come to try and pincer him, which makes it look more dramatic. As you say, Seaman did poorly with a near post shot, goalies really shouldn't get beat the near post. Also if Bergkamp hadn't missed the penalty, it would not have been a winner.
 
Mikejl said:
Here’s one - None of the title winning teams in the 80s or 90s would finish top 4 in an equivalent league today ( yeah fuck off with the age jokes). In fact i’d go as far to say, the top half of todays Championship would finish top half in 80s 90s top flight league football.

nothing to do with the quality of the top end footballers but the influx of foreign coaches and players in quality has taken it up several levels. The City team of 2023 would best any team historically
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Pretty bold stance! I think football then was more physical, you had guys like Graeme Souness and Peter Reid who would launch you without any sanction from the ref. Leeds won a title in the 70s basically hacking people to pieces. Today, players get LOTS of protection from physical players, so that tactic of kicking and terrorizing the opposition would be gone, and results may reflect that.
 
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