warpig
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TheLegendOfBerti said:
so what your now saying is that Damocles has no sense of humour? On second thoughts its prob best to leave it and move on ;)
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Your Opinion - A Better Bluemoon?
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so what your now saying is that Damocles has no sense of humour? On second thoughts its prob best to leave it and move on ;)
JoeMercer'sWay
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warpig said:TheLegendOfBerti said:I know :P, unfortunately I'm sometimes concerned by some mods sense of humour...
so what your now saying is that Damocles has no sense of humour? On second thoughts its prob best to leave it and move on ;)
did I name names? :)
Jimma
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no objection to paying a fee here
If you want to make the site run faster, it is essential the older threads are deleted.
Every time that a user sends a reply to any post, then the server has to reload every thread/post stored on the server, hence the delay, during busy periods, ie: just before/after a game, with a high volume of posters, the server will obviously struggle to store and reload the threads/posts.
Delete older threads, or threads that have had no replies for a pre-determined time and the site will run faster.
Simples! :))
Every time that a user sends a reply to any post, then the server has to reload every thread/post stored on the server, hence the delay, during busy periods, ie: just before/after a game, with a high volume of posters, the server will obviously struggle to store and reload the threads/posts.
Delete older threads, or threads that have had no replies for a pre-determined time and the site will run faster.
Simples! :))
Banned.
Anyway, the server doesn't need money throwing at it, it is fine as it is. We're still investigating the reasons for the slowness tonight and one or two bugs which have been an annoyance of late. We seemed to think that these are related. Unfortunately, the main issue is time. A few months back, I switched my freelancing business away from desktop applications and towards web based programming, and it has started to take off which leaves me with very little time to fiddle with the server. Ric has a young family, his own freelancing business and his 9000 holidays a year to take (:P), so his time is also a bit limited at present. It doesn't help that we have utterly useless hosts who's tech team has around the same knowledge as my pet dog on server issues. We literally have to fight them to get even the smallest thing done on their side and this is a constant thorn.
It should be noted that the forum seemed to run fine for the Sporting game, and was fine even after the Spurs game last season.
We also fix a zillion little problems all the time that you never see. Managing a high traffic site is a pain in the arse at the best of times, even without all of the dopiness of our hosts. To give you an idea of Bluemoon's popularity, we're around the 75,000th most popular site on the whole internet. Doesn't sound that impressive until you actually remember how many sites that out there for how many little niches. We're 10,000 places ABOVE the Manchester City Council's website, only 40,000 places BELOW the official site and around 500,000 places above the next City forum. In the UK, we're in the top few thousand websites, around 4,000th. At peak times, we covered nearly 0.004 % of global internet usage. That means that nearly 0.004 % of everybody on the internet worldwide visited our site that month. Our average load time is 0.8 seconds over the course of a month, which is pretty good considering that the site's hardware is optimised, managed, designed and ran by me and Ric.
All of those stats are for the last three months, which is the quiet time. During the season, we're even busier.
My point is, I understand that it frustrates people when the forum goes slow, hell, it frustrates me and Ric (who were already conversing over it by PM before the thread started). All we need though is time. The server is in much better shape than it was 12 months ago, and will be in much better shape in 12 months time. It's just an ongoing process of managing, it isn't just a switch that could be turned on when needed.
One of the problems, is that to really get at the server, we need to do some experimental stuff that could result in some slowness and downtime. It's catch-22. The server will require downtime or slowness to test out variables which are the enemy.
Anyway, I'll have a think about this, because the equipment is more than there, it's very much down to the fact that I've been slacking (well, working) over the last few weeks rather than any pressing need for new hardware. Normal service will be resumed soon.
Anyway, the server doesn't need money throwing at it, it is fine as it is. We're still investigating the reasons for the slowness tonight and one or two bugs which have been an annoyance of late. We seemed to think that these are related. Unfortunately, the main issue is time. A few months back, I switched my freelancing business away from desktop applications and towards web based programming, and it has started to take off which leaves me with very little time to fiddle with the server. Ric has a young family, his own freelancing business and his 9000 holidays a year to take (:P), so his time is also a bit limited at present. It doesn't help that we have utterly useless hosts who's tech team has around the same knowledge as my pet dog on server issues. We literally have to fight them to get even the smallest thing done on their side and this is a constant thorn.
It should be noted that the forum seemed to run fine for the Sporting game, and was fine even after the Spurs game last season.
We also fix a zillion little problems all the time that you never see. Managing a high traffic site is a pain in the arse at the best of times, even without all of the dopiness of our hosts. To give you an idea of Bluemoon's popularity, we're around the 75,000th most popular site on the whole internet. Doesn't sound that impressive until you actually remember how many sites that out there for how many little niches. We're 10,000 places ABOVE the Manchester City Council's website, only 40,000 places BELOW the official site and around 500,000 places above the next City forum. In the UK, we're in the top few thousand websites, around 4,000th. At peak times, we covered nearly 0.004 % of global internet usage. That means that nearly 0.004 % of everybody on the internet worldwide visited our site that month. Our average load time is 0.8 seconds over the course of a month, which is pretty good considering that the site's hardware is optimised, managed, designed and ran by me and Ric.
All of those stats are for the last three months, which is the quiet time. During the season, we're even busier.
My point is, I understand that it frustrates people when the forum goes slow, hell, it frustrates me and Ric (who were already conversing over it by PM before the thread started). All we need though is time. The server is in much better shape than it was 12 months ago, and will be in much better shape in 12 months time. It's just an ongoing process of managing, it isn't just a switch that could be turned on when needed.
One of the problems, is that to really get at the server, we need to do some experimental stuff that could result in some slowness and downtime. It's catch-22. The server will require downtime or slowness to test out variables which are the enemy.
Anyway, I'll have a think about this, because the equipment is more than there, it's very much down to the fact that I've been slacking (well, working) over the last few weeks rather than any pressing need for new hardware. Normal service will be resumed soon.
sweynforkbeard
Well-Known Member
Damocles said:Banned.
Anyway, the server doesn't need money throwing at it, it is fine as it is. We're still investigating the reasons for the slowness tonight and one or two bugs which have been an annoyance of late. We seemed to think that these are related. Unfortunately, the main issue is time. A few months back, I switched my freelancing business away from desktop applications and towards web based programming, and it has started to take off which leaves me with very little time to fiddle with the server. Ric has a young family, his own freelancing business and his 9000 holidays a year to take (:P), so his time is also a bit limited at present. It doesn't help that we have utterly useless hosts who's tech team has around the same knowledge as my pet dog on server issues. We literally have to fight them to get even the smallest thing done on their side and this is a constant thorn.
It should be noted that the forum seemed to run fine for the Sporting game, and was fine even after the Spurs game last season.
We also fix a zillion little problems all the time that you never see. Managing a high traffic site is a pain in the arse at the best of times, even without all of the dopiness of our hosts. To give you an idea of Bluemoon's popularity, we're around the 75,000th most popular site on the whole internet. Doesn't sound that impressive until you actually remember how many sites that out there for how many little niches. We're 10,000 places ABOVE the Manchester City Council's website, only 40,000 places BELOW the official site and around 500,000 places above the next City forum. In the UK, we're in the top few thousand websites, around 4,000th. At peak times, we covered nearly 0.004 % of global internet usage. That means that nearly 0.004 % of everybody on the internet worldwide visited our site that month. Our average load time is 0.8 seconds over the course of a month, which is pretty good considering that the site's hardware is optimised, managed, designed and ran by me and Ric.
All of those stats are for the last three months, which is the quiet time. During the season, we're even busier.
My point is, I understand that it frustrates people when the forum goes slow, hell, it frustrates me and Ric (who were already conversing over it by PM before the thread started). All we need though is time. The server is in much better shape than it was 12 months ago, and will be in much better shape in 12 months time. It's just an ongoing process of managing, it isn't just a switch that could be turned on when needed.
One of the problems, is that to really get at the server, we need to do some experimental stuff that could result in some slowness and downtime. It's catch-22. The server will require downtime or slowness to test out variables which are the enemy.
Anyway, I'll have a think about this, because the equipment is more than there, it's very much down to the fact that I've been slacking (well, working) over the last few weeks rather than any pressing need for new hardware. Normal service will be resumed soon.
Interesting stats there - any idea how Bluemoon ranks against fan sites of other clubs Damocles?
It goes:
RedCafe
Rawk/Arsenal Mania - these two swap positions regularly
Bluemoon
We're about 150,000 places above the most popular Chelsea forum, 50,000 in front of Villa, 125,000 in front of Spurs, and 30,000 in front of Everton.
To give a better example, we're about 30,000 places IN FRONT of the Official Sunderland site, and only 40,000 BEHIND our Official site. Considering that they both have crack teams of developers working behind the scenes on their sites day and night, and we have two young (not sure if Ric is still considered 'young'....) Manc lads working on ours as and when life affords the time, I think we do ok.
RedCafe
Rawk/Arsenal Mania - these two swap positions regularly
Bluemoon
We're about 150,000 places above the most popular Chelsea forum, 50,000 in front of Villa, 125,000 in front of Spurs, and 30,000 in front of Everton.
To give a better example, we're about 30,000 places IN FRONT of the Official Sunderland site, and only 40,000 BEHIND our Official site. Considering that they both have crack teams of developers working behind the scenes on their sites day and night, and we have two young (not sure if Ric is still considered 'young'....) Manc lads working on ours as and when life affords the time, I think we do ok.
JoeMercer'sWay
Well-Known Member
see, told you Damo was good, I wasn't just sucking up :P.
sweynforkbeard
Well-Known Member
Damocles said:It goes:
RedCafe
Rawk/Arsenal Mania - these two swap positions regularly
Bluemoon
We're about 150,000 places above the most popular Chelsea forum, 50,000 in front of Villa, 125,000 in front of Spurs, and 30,000 in front of Everton.
To give a better example, we're about 30,000 places IN FRONT of the Official Sunderland site, and only 40,000 BEHIND our Official site. Considering that they both have crack teams of developers working behind the scenes on their sites day and night, and we have two young (not sure if Ric is still considered 'young'....) Manc lads working on ours as and when life affords the time, I think we do ok.
Thanks - interesting stuff.
Smith_
Well-Known Member
Hi guys, first post, but have been browsing the site for around a year now and reading this thread made me actually register and i look forward to posting in the future.
p.s. im not a rag, my first game was at home to wigan in divison 2 (not the playoff) when terry cooke scored, so im also not a gloryhunter :)
p.s. im not a rag, my first game was at home to wigan in divison 2 (not the playoff) when terry cooke scored, so im also not a gloryhunter :)