Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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Actually it's Zoltan.
 
zeven said:
Goats left knee said:
with 21 goals in 41 appearances how can anyone call Zletan a Barca flop!!
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don't forget his 10 assists as well.

I can't understand it either!
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It's because he didn't play that well against English sides in the CL. You should know by now that that's all that matters. The Premier League is the best league in the world (or so i'm told - by Sky) so if a player doesn't score against United, Liverpool or Chelsea, he's a flop, regardless of how many goals he was involved in for Barca.
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
simon23 said:
certainly dont want this guy

a huge disaster waiting to happen. He hasnt got the desire to make it in the prem, puts very little effort into games, dominated too easily, and despite his size he is so easily pushed off the ball. too slow and needs too much space and time.

disappears in most games..

i understand that he is technically gifted but he is not what we want.....

really hope this doesnt happen....id rather stick with what we have
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How do you know he's not got the desire? I'm not bothered about the fact that Ibra doesn't run about a lot, what i'm interested in, is having players who have technique, who have the ability with the ball at their feet to do the unexpected because at the moment we've only got a few players who fall into that catogary and Ibra is one of these players. The problem with fans in this country is that they fall into the trap that being hard work is more important that having extremely good technique

England squad is full of hard working players and at the moment the lack of technique in most of the players is showing. Of course if you can get someone with the ability of Zlatan and the work rate of a Tevez then great but you'll find most of the better players with the ball at their feet aren't going to run round and chase lost causes all the time, it's just one of those things
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Its not his lack of running that shows me this, more his attitude on the pitch. He pulls out of challenges, is easily knocked off the ball and most of all goes missing an awful lot. We do need technically gifted players I agree but we need ones with the right attitude and Ibra hasnt got that...the prem is too tough for him.

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BillyShears said:
The myth that Ibra doesn't work hard is born, IMO, out of his lack of pace. Much like Berbatov, RVN, and other technically gifted forwards of that ilk, they aren't quick enough to career around a football pitch say in the way that Rooney or Tevez do. However, that's not at all an issue, either in the premiership, or in La Liga.

What Ibra would bring to the team are the qualities and attributes of a top class playmaker and a top class goal scorer all rolled into one. There was an Inter supporter on here recently who tried to explain that his struggles at Barca stemmed from Pep's insistence that he play like an out and out centre forward, and not take up positions on the pitch which would normally be reserved for Xavi, Messi, and Pedro. Although I can understand why this was the case, it's not a system designed to get the best out of Zlatan.

If there's one person who does know how to get the best out of him, it's Mancini. Having coached him, and also helped to raise his profile to such a point that he was considered arguably the best player in the world, I'd imagine the two men have a healthy respect for each other and know what is required to work together. This in my book, coupled with Ibra's undoubted natural ability make him the ideal centre forward signing.

It's a mark of how far we've come as a club, and just what our expectation levels are like, when so many supporters seemingly wouldn't take him...
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this is what we need though billy....an out and out goal scorer....we have players who can hold the ball up, bring others into play create etc etc...ade tevez ireland can all do those roles and ade and tevez will always score goals......what we need is a forward who plays on the shoulder of the last man (a torres type player)....<br /><br />-- Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:55 am --<br /><br />
avoidconfusion said:
simon23 said:
certainly dont want this guy

a huge disaster waiting to happen. He hasnt got the desire to make it in the prem, puts very little effort into games, dominated too easily, and despite his size he is so easily pushed off the ball. too slow and needs too much space and time.

disappears in most games..

i understand that he is technically gifted but he is not what we want.....

really hope this doesnt happen....id rather stick with what we have
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Good thing you're not the manager then.
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and what qulifies you more than me...its all about opinions you know.........argue with me all you like...i like a good debate but keep your snide remarks to yourself...
 
simon23 said:
this is what we need though billy....an out and out goal scorer....we have players who can hold the ball up, bring others into play create etc etc...ade tevez ireland can all do those roles and ade and tevez will always score goals......what we need is a forward who plays on the shoulder of the last man (a torres type player)....
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Hang on mate. Tevez got 30 plus goals last season, and Ade got 14. Goals up front isn't the issue, it's goals from other areas. In that sense the discussion about Ibra for me isn't one about bringing in a top level forward because of a lack of goals from the players already here. It's about the depth in our squad, and the fact that we struggled when Tevez wasn't available.

Look at it another way. Right now we have RSC, Tevez, and Ade as our only out and out centre forwards (if you discount the players out on loan). Swapping RSC for Ibra is a massive, massive, step up.
 
BillyShears said:
simon23 said:
this is what we need though billy....an out and out goal scorer....we have players who can hold the ball up, bring others into play create etc etc...ade tevez ireland can all do those roles and ade and tevez will always score goals......what we need is a forward who plays on the shoulder of the last man (a torres type player)....
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Hang on mate. Tevez got 30 plus goals last season, and Ade got 14. Goals up front isn't the issue, it's goals from other areas. In that sense the discussion about Ibra for me isn't one about bringing in a top level forward because of a lack of goals from the players already here. It's about the depth in our squad, and the fact that we struggled when Tevez wasn't available.

Look at it another way. Right now we have RSC, Tevez, and Ade as our only out and out centre forwards (if you discount the players out on loan). Swapping RSC for Ibra is a massive, massive, step up.[/quote]

yup agree with you in a sense as RSC isnt good enough. I just dont think that Ibra will adapt to the premiership. He is undoubtedly a better player than RSC in all aspects of the game but I just think that we need a player with different qualities......ade, tevez - neither of these play on the shoulder of the last man, neither does ibra...to me we need a torres style plaer not someone who is similar to what we have already
 
simon23 said:
yup agree with you in a sense as RSC isnt good enough. I just dont think that Ibra will adapt to the premiership. He is undoubtedly a better player than RSC in all aspects of the game but I just think that we need a player with different qualities......ade, tevez - neither of these play on the shoulder of the last man, neither does ibra...to me we need a torres style plaer not someone who is similar to what we have already
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There's no evidence that Ibra has struggled to adapt to any other league he's played in, so i'm not sure that there's any reason to fear he'd struggle to adapt to the premiership.

I do take your point about having a striker who can play on the shoulder of the last defender - but it's really not necessary. Anelka and Drogba won the league at Chelsea and neither player played in that manner. Similarly, Rooney nor Berbatov played "on the shoulder" so to speak, yet the rags finished second in the league.

The most important thing for City this summer should be to sign players who are a manifest improvement on what we already have. Ibra fits that bill in spades...
 
richards30 said:
bluemoon201164 said:
would rather have dzeko.
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me too mate but ibra is a good player but just think dzeko would be better suited to the premiership.
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I'd be happy with any of them, personally i just think dzeko would be a great partner for tevez and would really compliment each other.
 
BillyShears said:
simon23 said:
yup agree with you in a sense as RSC isnt good enough. I just dont think that Ibra will adapt to the premiership. He is undoubtedly a better player than RSC in all aspects of the game but I just think that we need a player with different qualities......ade, tevez - neither of these play on the shoulder of the last man, neither does ibra...to me we need a torres style plaer not someone who is similar to what we have already
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There's no evidence that Ibra has struggled to adapt to any other league he's played in, so i'm not sure that there's any reason to fear he'd struggle to adapt to the premiership.

I do take your point about having a striker who can play on the shoulder of the last defender - but it's really not necessary. Anelka and Drogba won the league at Chelsea and neither player played in that manner. Similarly, Rooney nor Berbatov played "on the shoulder" so to speak, yet the rags finished second in the league.

The most important thing for City this summer should be to sign players who are a manifest improvement on what we already have. Ibra fits that bill in spades...
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again agree but the point in having a player who plays on the shoulder of the last man is that means it gives us a different option. None of the players we have (including Ibra) can play in that way

if we had 4 main strikers in ade tevez ibra plus one other (e.g a torres type) then id be happy.....but with just the 3 then we have little flexibillity and out of those 3 ade and tevez should always be ahead of ibra in the pecking order (in my opinion) as I do believe (just my opinion again) that Ibra will struggle hugely in the prem....just like shevchenko did
 
Simon, please eleborate your opinion,

Zlatan is far better than Ade! Zlatan has never had any problemw to adapt.
Zlatan are stronger than any other forward, better vision than any other midfielder/striker in our current squad.

Remember, new league,new team, new coutntry, played an entirely new role, and he did score 21 one goals and made 10 asists. quite good for a player with a record of 26 goals
 
zeven said:
Simon, please eleborate your opinion,

Zlatan is far better than Ade! Zlatan has never had any problemw to adapt.
Zlatan are stronger than any other forward, better vision than any other midfielder/striker in our current squad.

I Don't think you've followed zlatan very well! because he do so much more than score goals or assists. He one of the most complete player in the world! and a fat better playmaker than pretty much any midfielder in the PREM today.. and thats not even hes primary role.
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ive seen enough to form an opinion of him

You cannt compare ade to Ibra until they both play in the same league but yes in my opinion (if i have to give one) is that Ade is better....he is at least proven, Ibra isnt

And for a guy is so supposedly strong...Ive never seen a player so easily knocked off the ball and that is why i doubt his commitment and strenght is good enough to play in the prem

and we dont need another forward who is a play maker....we have tevez and ade who can both do that job and do it well, plus we have ireland from midfield

we need an out and out goalscorer and as billy said.....Ibra is not that tyoe of player
 
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