AlexWilliamsGloves
Well-Known Member
What we need is an alternative Ulster.
Grab and take it, its yours
What we need is an alternative Ulster.
It's a sign of the shit that you are in when you are dealing with the DUP to make a sensible decision.
Arlene is really pulling the strings right now and would love and wants a hard border which would divide Ireland and take away the re-unification or Ireland. Any special deal would open that debate and come hell or high water the DUP will block any attempt at it. So right now we are what is technically known as totally fucked. I wouldn't be surprised to see another GE early in the new year because unless May is going to concede on staying in the customs union for the whole of the UK not just Ireland which won't go down well with the head banger element in her party the GE is next.
What we need is an alternative Ulster.
I don't blame Arlene, the clue is in the name....Democratic Unionist Party.
I don't blame Arlene, the clue is in the name....Democratic Unionist Party.
I accept that. But the question I'm asking is, are they, the DUP in anyway synonomous with 2017 British values and in particular evolved social norms?
You can't blame Arlene she is just looking after her own and who can blame her. She is quite rightly defending her party's interest regardless how backward some may see them that is her duty.
May be that is something that May should have asked herself before jumping into bed with the DUP. They aren't your conventional political party like the Lib Dems for example these guys have an agenda and top of that agenda is keeping Northern Ireland in the UK at all costs and if that means hard build that wall and lets get the EU to pay for it will be the call.
I accept that. But the question I'm asking is, are they, the DUP in anyway synonomous with 2017 British values and in particular evolved social norms?
The simple answer is no, but as British values seem to have "evolved" to encompass the acceptance of gay marriage alongside the acceptance of food banks, I don't feel inclined to put Arlene in the dock.