Bringing In Players Born In Current E.U. Countries?

[Metal Biker]

Such a shame, hope all the "leave" cunts are happy!

Oh we are sweetie.

 

[lancs blue]

Oh we are sweetie.

Hope you've all got jobs in 10 years.

On topic I imagine the PL will make representations to a Brexit government for special exemptions along the lines of "hugely popular institution, brings in millions of tourists etc". Nothing will change for the best part of three years anyway.

 

[Eds]

You've got the right gist, but some of your details are off.

Once we trigger Article 50 (the exit article) we have exactly two years to negotiate our exit. We can extend that period, but only if every single EU member agrees to it, and with the rise of far right parties across Europe demanding their own exit, many countries have a good reason to refuse that extension. The Germans, for example, have indicated that they want us gone as soon as possible. We haven't triggered Article 50 yet, but we will soon - Cameron wants it to be the first act of his successor but the Germans, again, are demanding we do it earlier.

As for Europe accepting our trade terms - it's actually the other way around. There is no doubt at all that the government will request entry into the European Economic Area, meaning access to the free trade and essentially little difference economically to how things were before. However, the EU has made it clear to other EEA members that there are non-negotiable conditions for entry, and they include committing to paying an annual subsidy to fund the EU government and accepting free movement of EU workers - so basically all the things people were voting Leave over. In other words, there is no chance this happens; the general public wouldn't allow it.

Failing that we can negotiate a deal similar to Canada which would get us restricted free trade access but it would be at the liberty of what the EU demands we accept, and since they are furious at us then you can bet we would have to agree to pay subsidies and bend over backwards to EU definitions on what can and can't be sold (fruit having to be within certain weights, products having to be made of certain metal alloys etc). It is also quite unlikely this happens, especially as it's been indicated that the EU will be deliberately vindictive with their terms.

In all likelihood therefore, we are going to have to accept being mostly cut off from the European market, excepting paying extortionate tariffs.

Anyway, to answer the original question, EU players will now need work permits, and while most top players will qualify anyway under the exceptional talent clause, teenagers for the most part won't. The same will happen in reverse, too, so after we leave expect to see Chelsea (and us) not being able to send British kids to European clubs on loan for competitive experience anymore. Also, the pound's value is going to be rocked for a few years while we struggle to rebuild foreign trade links from scratch, so expect the pound to end up anywhere from 20 to 50%, weaker thus inflating transfer fees and deflating them out.

Your comments about paying tariffs can't be true because all the outers told us that was rubbish. Mind you they are now saying they wouldn't spend £350m on the NHS like they said they would

 

[look@the skygodisablue]

As with any major company, institution, etc. anything that brings millions if not billions of dollars,pounds, euros, whatever into the economy of powerful, influential people's pockets exceptions will be made to keep the money press going. As with anything related to big government/big business it is the common man to be most affected rightly or wrongly. ESPN FC has some good articles on the fall out or lack there of in regards to the EPL and the FA.

 

[Falastur]

Your comments about paying tariffs can't be true because all the outers told us that was rubbish. Mind you they are now saying they wouldn't spend £350m on the NHS like they said they would

Ahh yes, good point. My last post was wrong. What I should have said was that leaving the EU will affect transfers because all EU nationals will now realise we are such a fantastic country that their teams will simply agree to waive all terms and let their players leave for free, while those players will be so in awe of our newfound sovereignty that they will demand to play for free in tribute to our greatness.

 

[Neville Kneville]

You've got the right gist, but some of your details are off.

Once we trigger Article 50 (the exit article) we have exactly two years to negotiate our exit. We can extend that period, but only if every single EU member agrees to it, and with the rise of far right parties across Europe demanding their own exit, many countries have a good reason to refuse that extension. The Germans, for example, have indicated that they want us gone as soon as possible. We haven't triggered Article 50 yet, but we will soon - Cameron wants it to be the first act of his successor but the Germans, again, are demanding we do it earlier.

As for Europe accepting our trade terms - it's actually the other way around. There is no doubt at all that the government will request entry into the European Economic Area, meaning access to the free trade and essentially little difference economically to how things were before. However, the EU has made it clear to other EEA members that there are non-negotiable conditions for entry, and they include committing to paying an annual subsidy to fund the EU government and accepting free movement of EU workers - so basically all the things people were voting Leave over. In other words, there is no chance this happens; the general public wouldn't allow it.

Failing that we can negotiate a deal similar to Canada which would get us restricted free trade access but it would be at the liberty of what the EU demands we accept, and since they are furious at us then you can bet we would have to agree to pay subsidies and bend over backwards to EU definitions on what can and can't be sold (fruit having to be within certain weights, products having to be made of certain metal alloys etc). It is also quite unlikely this happens, especially as it's been indicated that the EU will be deliberately vindictive with their terms.

In all likelihood therefore, we are going to have to accept being mostly cut off from the European market, excepting paying extortionate tariffs.

Anyway, to answer the original question, EU players will now need work permits, and while most top players will qualify anyway under the exceptional talent clause, teenagers for the most part won't. The same will happen in reverse, too, so after we leave expect to see Chelsea (and us) not being able to send British kids to European clubs on loan for competitive experience anymore. Also, the pound's value is going to be rocked for a few years while we struggle to rebuild foreign trade links from scratch, so expect the pound to end up anywhere from 20 to 50%, weaker thus inflating transfer fees and deflating them out.

In a recent poll, most people on both sides of the debate accepted a Norway style trade agreement, which is what we will most likely end up with. When you consider that the majority of mps didn't want a brexit & they will be the ones who decide on the next step, & even the Boris Johnson type cunts are selling the idea of a trade agreement now, then it's almost certain that is what will happen.

We will try to negotiate a better deal than Norway & if we use the fact that they want us out quickly, as leverage, then we might get it.

Chances are we will still get the same EU bollocksthough but without a vote. But most of the people who voted out had no idea what would replace it anyway, so probably won't care.

I think eu players will have pretty much the same status as now.

 

[jonmcity]

We could open up immigration to all, we would then we would be able to get the best in the world from an early age.

 

[staffs_blue]

We should be able to sign young south American players without work permits shouldn't we?

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[Cobwebcat]

We should be able to sign young south American players without work permits shouldn't we?

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I don't see how we can get any young foreign players unless we join efta.

None of them would meet the new permit requirements.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Now we're leaving the E.U, how will it affect us, in terms of signing players born in current E.U. countries. Will it make things easier or more difficult -
Re, Getting them work permits, visas and the like?

I would suggest that it might make it easier to sign African or South American players.