Explosion at MEN Arena/Victoria Station

Skynews now showing us his apartment where he spent his last evening , a normal flat - what is the purpose.

Same for atricles of him as a kid, his upbringing and interviews with his siblings that 'he was a loving guy'

we have his name and picture splashed across all media outlets now

.. how about we give these c*nts ZERO media attention - instead we are making them celebrity martyrs which they know full well will entice more people after there death
 
Blue Llama said:
It wasn't but the alternative of Hindus and Muslims continuing with a civil war would have been far worse.
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Our experience in India seemed to matter little when the chance to carve up Iraq into different Muslim areas happened. Possibly a Yugoslavia style breakup would have been superior to trying to impose democracy on different Muslim factions who had been fighting for generations.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And you could even say that we set the scene for this as far back as 1917 when between us and the French we carved up the Middle East in our assumed role as imperial powers while paying little regard to tribal or religious issues. We created completely artificial countries and rewarded those who we saw as our lapdogs by allowing them to run those countries.
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You could keep going backwards ad infinitum. Should we blame the ottomans? Birth of Islam or Christianity? The Greeks?
 
SilverFox2 said:
Our experience in India seemed to matter little when the chance to carve up Iraq into different Muslim areas happened. Possibly a Yugoslavia style breakup would have been superior to trying to impose democracy on different Muslim factions who had been fighting for generations.
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Exactly my point in an earlier post. Very rarely has our intervention been 100% appreciated so why do we continue to bother. We learn nothing from history, Afghanistan being a good case. The French and Russians learnt to their cost. we even have previous but did this history inform our decision to go in again? No it didn't and not even the guy we helped stabilise for several years has much to say in our favour. We helped protect Muslims in at least 2 of the Yugoslavian states, doesn't seem to have banked us much credit with the nutters.
 
Queen now visiting Manchester Children's Hospital apparently. Not a Royalist myself but at her age fair play to her.
 
At least Tommy Robinson is getting his facts right, hes tweeted a list of Asian staff who were on duty on Monday, with a licence number that is nothing to do with SIA or showsec, wanker
 
Gelsons Dad said:
You could keep going backwards ad infinitum. Should we blame the ottomans? Birth of Islam or Christianity? The Greeks?
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yeah i have to agree, of course there is always context and recent history might still be important but going back and back and back seems a little pointless. You could even argue the one reason Islam was founded was to stop the spread of Christianity east, and we're just getting into pointless territory really, serves no purpose for the here and now.
 
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