They will not go away. But it does seem in other sports that the existence of video refs improves the quality of refereeing/umpiring in the sense that they stop making the same types of mistakes.
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They will not go away. But it does seem in other sports that the existence of video refs improves the quality of refereeing/umpiring in the sense that they stop making the same types of mistakes.
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They have a video ref on BT and he is fucking useless.
stadiumcat
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If we are beaten fair and square no problem. But when its like all-in wrestling with Sergio being thrown to the ground and Raz taken out and nothing given; WELL that's not football or if it is I don't want to see it anymore! I don't normally drink at games, leave my seat when the game is on; but yesterday! I went for a pint after about 40 minutes. It is almost like watching a stage manager direct kids to achieve the story he wants; with this act being one of many played throughout the season.
The PLOT IS NOW CLEARING for this season
1 Chelski
2 Spurs
3 City
4 Candle lighters
5 Rags who win the europa league or what ever its called.
so five in Chumps league next season and the Arse to have a good season under new manager without the pressure of Chumps league.
Do I spend money seeing City play this out or not? The answer is yes I am a long time City fan and will continue, but when all this comes out City will be tarred with the same brush as part of the Premier league.
The PLOT IS NOW CLEARING for this season
1 Chelski
2 Spurs
3 City
4 Candle lighters
5 Rags who win the europa league or what ever its called.
so five in Chumps league next season and the Arse to have a good season under new manager without the pressure of Chumps league.
Do I spend money seeing City play this out or not? The answer is yes I am a long time City fan and will continue, but when all this comes out City will be tarred with the same brush as part of the Premier league.
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I'm not big on the Agenda stuff and will normally say it evens itself out but this year has been a Joke
Luiz, Walker and Milner yesterday were red cards in huge games we will win if the ref does his job and the league looks a whole lot different
It's also that it snowballs onto everything else, club getting criticised for not doing well enough, Pep failing etc...add to this the red and penalty v Monaco in first leg with foul on Aguero ( that HE got booked for ) and we could still be in CL
I know we missing chances and giving sloppy goals away as well but you expect to get your fair share
Luiz, Walker and Milner yesterday were red cards in huge games we will win if the ref does his job and the league looks a whole lot different
It's also that it snowballs onto everything else, club getting criticised for not doing well enough, Pep failing etc...add to this the red and penalty v Monaco in first leg with foul on Aguero ( that HE got booked for ) and we could still be in CL
I know we missing chances and giving sloppy goals away as well but you expect to get your fair share
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That is my point exactly.We need people within making noise and sensationalizing it so that it becomes forced into the consciousness of the media and consequently the officials. Who remembers the Walker push? no one. This game and the incidents will be forgotten in no time.
You're absolutely right. Look at Mourinho, he goes on about decisions not going his way and all of a sudden they have at least six blatant sending off offences not punished or given a yellow. It's so clear, we need to get smarter.
I don't think it's an agenda. What I do think it is is subconscious influence. If you look at the constant rake of shite articles (e.g. The Mirror today) the referees must read these and are being subconsciously influenced to dislike City.
Another example of this affect is the rest of the country booing sterling.. For what? Because of the media retoric against him.
Until our media department come down hard and start banning twats for writing bull then it will continue. I'm not saying people shouldn't write negatives about us, we have plenty. Just not out and out bias or lies.
Another example of this affect is the rest of the country booing sterling.. For what? Because of the media retoric against him.
Until our media department come down hard and start banning twats for writing bull then it will continue. I'm not saying people shouldn't write negatives about us, we have plenty. Just not out and out bias or lies.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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They have a video ref on BT and he is fucking useless.
Howie Redshirt was shite on the pitch and he's shiter in the shed!
Hacket in the DT this morning is suggesting that Oliver was tired. Mentally fatigued after doing three or four matches in the last week. I have to disagree - he was shit in the first of the batch and was his usually bottling abysmal self again last night. I have looked at some turds in my time and trodden in some in my time, but I've never followed up with "Do you know, I think that turd lying on the pavement looks terrible fatigued. It needs a good lie down and a massage!" Where are the Nevilles when yer need one!
The level of refereeing as we have witnessed it at The Etihad this season has been nowhere near a standard that fans have a right to expect - Taylor, Mason, Marriner, Oliver. Everyone making up the script as they go along.
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These 'decisions' will be a complete culture shock to Guardiola - there is no way Bayern and Barcelona would have has these sort of decisions go against them on a regular basis
Leaving aside the more obvious controversial decisions for a moment it should not be ignored that we out fouled them 14-7 on our own patch with 60% possession. I noted that with around 15 minutes to go they had only fouled us 4 times, yes that's FOUR, absolutely ridiculous.
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Although it makes me sick, I've tried imagining this from the perspective of vermin or red scouse fans and I'm sure they lap up the demonization of our Club. Feeding them exactly what they want to see, read or hear ensures plenty of advertising revenue for the various media outlets. Difficult to know who's driving this as the parties involved are seemingly unaccountable and self-perpetuating:
Premier League / FA - using Officials and Executives to promote the interests and advancement of their cash cow Clubs.
Broadcasting media - only interested in viewing figures and advertising revenue so vital to pander to vermin and red scouse. Carefully chosen pundits and commentators must endorse on-field decisions and reflect the views of the majority. Portraying us as an evil empire makes their job easier.
Daily papers - printing the lies and bullshit that their knuckle dragging readers want to read
Online / Social media - all about advertising and clicks on sponsor's links so, again, pandering to the greater numbers is how they survive and thrive
Can't decide if I buy into the idea of this all being carefully co-ordinated but the Premier League and FA have so much influence that it's hard not to believe that they - via their match Officials and Executives - are at the root of the demonization. The other parties simply go with the flow and do what they need to survive.
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Premier League / FA - using Officials and Executives to promote the interests and advancement of their cash cow Clubs.
Broadcasting media - only interested in viewing figures and advertising revenue so vital to pander to vermin and red scouse. Carefully chosen pundits and commentators must endorse on-field decisions and reflect the views of the majority. Portraying us as an evil empire makes their job easier.
Daily papers - printing the lies and bullshit that their knuckle dragging readers want to read
Online / Social media - all about advertising and clicks on sponsor's links so, again, pandering to the greater numbers is how they survive and thrive
Can't decide if I buy into the idea of this all being carefully co-ordinated but the Premier League and FA have so much influence that it's hard not to believe that they - via their match Officials and Executives - are at the root of the demonization. The other parties simply go with the flow and do what they need to survive.
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MillionMilesAway
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Oh and another thing, were any of them offside calls against Sterling in the first half replayed on Sky? I noticed they weren't at the time, were they shown at HT by any chance?
I think they showed one of Sane being off (correctly), but none of Sterling's repeat occurrences.
I think they showed one of Sane being off (correctly), but none of Sterling's repeat occurrences.
Yep, remember them showing the Sane one, slightly off so no complaints but the fact that they failed to show replays of the Sterling ones makes me suspicious that he was on.
MillionMilesAway
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Yep, remember them showing the Sane one, slightly off so no complaints but the fact that they failed to show replays of the Sterling ones makes me suspicious that he was on.
It is easy to think that, I agree.
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What’s really galling is that the challenge for the Sterling non-penalty was pretty similar to the Otamendi foul on Falcao the other week. Hard to spot at full speed, but equally guilty.
However, I’m pretty sure that Oliver would have awarded the penalty if we’d been playing Hull or Swansea
However, I’m pretty sure that Oliver would have awarded the penalty if we’d been playing Hull or Swansea
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You don't get it , do you.What’s really galling is that the challenge for the Sterling non-penalty was pretty similar to the Otamendi foul on Falcao the other week. Hard to spot at full speed, but equally guilty.
However, I’m pretty sure that Oliver would have awarded the penalty if we’d been playing Hull or Swansea
Sterling would have been booked.
the same thing happened in the Monaco game they didn't replay any of other the dodgy offside decisions in that game. I have accepted that the game is fixed and we are playing fourteen players especially in the big games. I wonder if anyone tech savvy could maybe do a montage of all the terrible decisions we have had against us this season. I am positive the club knows what is going on but chooses for some reason not to challenge the bent referees. City square was even just smoothing over the really bad decisions. danny was speaking up a bit but the other two trying to find a reason why oliver missed the clear sterling penalty. T hey all agreed even danny that the clichy one was a penalty even though he got the ball you only have to listen to the sky bbc talksport and their bias to know our beloved game is corrupt. the sun on line is showing a replay of the yaya challenge asking if it should be a red nothing to see in the non sterling penalty. city tv could show all the terrible decisions in their highlights on the city website but choose not to.Yep, remember them showing the Sane one, slightly off so no complaints but the fact that they failed to show replays of the Sterling ones makes me suspicious that he was on.
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It's the big decisions early on in games when the game is all level that pisses me off!
Chelsea (luiz) red card
Barcelona sterling pen
Monaco aguero pen,red card
Spurs sterling pen at 2-1
Spurs kane offside assist at 2-1
Liverpool aguero dragged back trying to reach a cross pen red card at 0-0
Liverpool aguero trying to reach a cross again dragged back pen red card
liverpool sterling brought down with empty net pen red card at 0-0
I'm sure there is more but all these are big games and a clear advantage should be given too us! Feel free to add to the list!
Chelsea (luiz) red card
Barcelona sterling pen
Monaco aguero pen,red card
Spurs sterling pen at 2-1
Spurs kane offside assist at 2-1
Liverpool aguero dragged back trying to reach a cross pen red card at 0-0
Liverpool aguero trying to reach a cross again dragged back pen red card
liverpool sterling brought down with empty net pen red card at 0-0
I'm sure there is more but all these are big games and a clear advantage should be given too us! Feel free to add to the list!
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We all know the FA's favoured club as the FA Cup has proven, confirmed by Jug ears. You travel round the world and they are only called "Manchester" by the locals. Another team, actually from the city who's better financially and on the pitch damages that affiliation.Although it makes me sick, I've tried imagining this from the perspective of vermin or red scouse fans and I'm sure they lap up the demonization of our Club. Feeding them exactly what they want to see, read or hear ensures plenty of advertising revenue for the various media outlets. Difficult to know who's driving this as the parties involved are seemingly unaccountable and self-perpetuating:
Premier League / FA - using Officials and Executives to promote the interests and advancement of their cash cow Clubs.
Broadcasting media - only interested in viewing figures and advertising revenue so vital to pander to vermin and red scouse. Carefully chosen pundits and commentators must endorse on-field decisions and reflect the views of the majority. Portraying us as an evil empire makes their job easier.
Daily papers - printing the lies and bullshit that their knuckle dragging readers want to read
Online / Social media - all about advertising and clicks on sponsor's links so, again, pandering to the greater numbers is how they survive and thrive
Can't decide if I buy into the idea of this all being carefully co-ordinated but the Premier League and FA have so much influence that it's hard not to believe that they - via their match Officials and Executives - are at the root of the demonization. The other parties simply go with the flow and do what they need to survive.
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Dodge
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I think we're all resigned to our daily match going routine being stuffed by these tossers.
I'm usually a reasonably mild-mannered kind of bloke but I know within 15 minutes of any home game starting I'll be frothing at the mouth, screaming at the referee and his pox ridden linesmen and questioning why the fuck I'm putting myself through this every week.
The thing is, it only seems to be home games, and this is reflected in our average home record. Our away record is second to none, and I cant really remember any glaring "errors" on our travels this season. Compare our home record to our away record its blatantly obvious that the twats come to the Etihad with a mind set of giving us fuck all and the opposition everything.
Did anyone notice, because I certainly did in the South Stand, the lino laughing when we gave him an ironic ovation for raising his flag for once in our favour? It's that arrogance of the fuckers that does my head in. Oliver prancing about with that smug look on his face, enjoying seeing our players getting more and more frustrated, enjoying the crowd on his back, enjoying the limelight. Enjoying the fact that he's winning friends all over the country by fucking us over..
I'd rather lick piss off a stinger than ever give any one of those cheating biased dickheads any credit for anything, I hope they all rot in hell..
Thanks for listening.
I'm usually a reasonably mild-mannered kind of bloke but I know within 15 minutes of any home game starting I'll be frothing at the mouth, screaming at the referee and his pox ridden linesmen and questioning why the fuck I'm putting myself through this every week.
The thing is, it only seems to be home games, and this is reflected in our average home record. Our away record is second to none, and I cant really remember any glaring "errors" on our travels this season. Compare our home record to our away record its blatantly obvious that the twats come to the Etihad with a mind set of giving us fuck all and the opposition everything.
Did anyone notice, because I certainly did in the South Stand, the lino laughing when we gave him an ironic ovation for raising his flag for once in our favour? It's that arrogance of the fuckers that does my head in. Oliver prancing about with that smug look on his face, enjoying seeing our players getting more and more frustrated, enjoying the crowd on his back, enjoying the limelight. Enjoying the fact that he's winning friends all over the country by fucking us over..
I'd rather lick piss off a stinger than ever give any one of those cheating biased dickheads any credit for anything, I hope they all rot in hell..
Thanks for listening.