Article 50/Brexit Negotiations

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Churchlawtonblue said:
My eldest will have £40k of debt in a few months time all thanks to that twat Blair and his duplicitous Scottish mps with their fuck England double standards. But hey its all ok because french polish italian romanian german and so on in fact all 27 other eu countries are entitled to free university education in Scotland paid for by UK taxpayers while English kids are charged and blatantly descriminated against. I loathe Westminster governments of all persuasions.
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A poster put someone else right on this

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Thats because Scottish students pay the full price for a place in an English University - The Scots provide free University Education for all other members of the EU and Finland Denmark and Norway also offer free university Education. They charge us because our intransigent Government refused to do a deal (money is worth so much more than educating your kids) however free university education is still available across Europe for our kids if they want to apply (and a lot of courses are taught in English )

by the way .......Finland ( a socialist state) has been lauded as having the worlds best education system gaining top marks in the World economic Forum 2014 Global Competitiveness Report
 
Len Rum said:
Meanwhile in other Brexit news, Sky are reporting on their website ( in an article on Gibraltar ) that May the Remainer has agreed with the EU council view that the final deal will take place under Article 218 (when Britain has left the EU and is a third party country) and not under Article 50.
This is an acknowledgement that a deal will not be concluded in two years.
Interesting, very interesting Jeff.
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The Remainer has repeated the same thing in Jordan today.
Some serious rowing back on promises going on already.
First we had immigration ( controlled not reduced, maybe even an increase), then no deal is not a good deal, now the EU trade deal will only be finalized after we have left i.e.not within two years as promised.
So next question is what will be the arrangements in the transitional period and how long will said transitional period last for?
 
Magicpole said:
A poster put someone else right on this

Here it is

Thats because Scottish students pay the full price for a place in an English University - The Scots provide free University Education for all other members of the EU and Finland Denmark and Norway also offer free university Education. They charge us because our intransigent Government refused to do a deal (money is worth so much more than educating your kids) however free university education is still available across Europe for our kids if they want to apply (and a lot of courses are taught in English )

by the way .......Finland ( a socialist state) has been lauded as having the worlds best education system gaining top marks in the World economic Forum 2014 Global Competitiveness Report
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I think you are wrong in so far as scottish students tuition fees in England are paid for by the Scottish government. My daughter has a scottish friend at Sheffield and she told her she didnt pay tuition fees. Thw Scots still descriminate against English students in Scotland vs EU students. You cannot justify that stance surely.
 
Hey magicp. Apologies for insulting you earlier. We may dissagree on many things and I find your logic frustrating as no doubt you find mine. But no excuse for the insults. Apologies.
 
Take in migrants or leave, EU tells Hungary and Poland

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/take-in-migrants-or-leave-eu-tells-hungary-and-poland-rscwfgtwn

Germany, France and up to 21 other countries will give an ultimatum to Hungary and Poland this year demanding that they accept their quota of migrants or get out of the EU.

Hungary has led a rebellion against the quotas with a challenge in the EU courts and by pushing for a “cultural counter-revolution” against the centralisation of powers in Brussels.

Poland has ignored the European Commission’s criticism and tried last month to veto Donald Tusk, a former Polish prime minister, from being reappointed president of the European Council.

Both countries have ignored proposals introduced by the EU in 2015 to relocate 160,000 migrants who had arrived in southern EU countries to other member states to ease the impact of the flood of migrants.

The rest of the EU plans to force the issue of unity with the two Eurosceptic countries, both ruled by populist and nationalist governments, this autumn at the height of Brexit negotiations.

“They will have to make a choice: are they in the European system or not? You cannot blackmail the EU, unity has a price,” a senior diplomatic source from one of the six founding member states said.
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and then there were 25

Nice trading block.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I think you are wrong in so far as scottish students tuition fees in England are paid for by the Scottish government. My daughter has a scottish friend at Sheffield and she told her she didnt pay tuition fees. Thw Scots still descriminate against English students in Scotland vs EU students. You cannot justify that stance surely.
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No, Scottish students in England pay tuition fees. The only exception I think are medical degrees, my daughter is doing physiotherapy and if she had gone to England her fees would have been paid by the NHS, asit is she did it in Scotland, but she has friends doing other courses in England and paying.
Whereas Scotland and eu countries have reciprocal deals but not England.
 
Magicpole said:
A poster put someone else right on this

Here it is

Thats because Scottish students pay the full price for a place in an English University - The Scots provide free University Education for all other members of the EU and Finland Denmark and Norway also offer free university Education. They charge us because our intransigent Government refused to do a deal (money is worth so much more than educating your kids) however free university education is still available across Europe for our kids if they want to apply (and a lot of courses are taught in English )

by the way .......Finland ( a socialist state) has been lauded as having the worlds best education system gaining top marks in the World economic Forum 2014 Global Competitiveness Report
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So do English kids.
 
Len Rum said:
The Remainer has repeated the same thing in Jordan today.
Some serious rowing back on promises going on already.
First we had immigration ( controlled not reduced, maybe even an increase), then no deal is not a good deal, now the EU trade deal will only be finalized after we have left i.e.not within two years as promised.
So next question is what will be the arrangements in the transitional period and how long will said transitional period last for?
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The Appeaser now stating full immigration will continue during the transitional phase.
YCNMIU.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
http://www.scotland.org/study-in-scotland/fees-funding-and-visa-applications

Think you cant get any more descriminatory than this little piece of anti English legislation, wrapped up in some fee structure jargon. Lol
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That final line is anti english, welsh and NI to be exact if you take it in that context., do the Welsh have some rule that helps pay welsh domiciles and NI likewise? For wales yes they pay half the 9 grand for welsh students. other UK residents have to pay full price. NI I don't know.

The question should be why is the english so anti their own students they don't subsidise them as the other UK countries do.

Yes the SNP are bellends but scotland is hardly as anti english as the press make out.
 
Len Rum said:
The Appeaser now stating full immigration will continue during the transitional phase.
YCNMIU.
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The terms of our exit will be dictated by the remaining 27, that has been obvious since the summer. May will retreat bit by bit week after week and with each retreat the knife in her back from the Europhobes will dig deeper and deeper. I hope she's enjoying the pinnacle of her power because it's all downhill from here.
 
smudgedj said:
Take in migrants or leave, EU tells Hungary and Poland

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/take-in-migrants-or-leave-eu-tells-hungary-and-poland-rscwfgtwn



and then there were 25

Nice trading block.
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I have frequently asked the question of remainers as to how they actually think you can put 28 differing nations together and make it into one big country, not on here, not in the pub, do they answer...nope they will just continue to bang on about the economy and how all us Brexit voters are racists or some other bollocks that has been done more than John Inmans arse.

Above is one massive reason it wont. The EU wont budge on immigration and want to insist that Poland and Hungary take lots of new people. Rightly so of course as if you want to be in the club you have to accept the rules. Problem is if said refugees are dispatched to those countries god help them. The people in Eastern Europe wont have it simple as. They will take to the streets.

So even now with Greece about to go tits up again, the EU have 2 countries that may either be forced to leave or have serious unrest to contend with. The EU is fucked, an absolute basket case, run by idiots who have no understanding of the real world whatsoever.

I know it wont happen but if Le Penn wins in France I will laugh my bollocks off. The whole ridiculous thing could be dead in the water by the end of the year. Wonder what our Scottish neighbours would think about that?
 
The perfect fumble said:
The terms of our exit will be dictated by the remaining 27, that has been obvious since the summer. May will retreat bit by bit week after week and with each retreat the knife in her back from the Europhobes will dig deeper and deeper. I hope she's enjoying the pinnacle of her power because it's all downhill from here.
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LOL
 
purplenose said:
I have frequently asked the question of remainers as to how they actually think you can put 28 differing nations together and make it into one big country, not on here, not in the pub, do they answer...nope they will just continue to bang on about the economy and how all us Brexit voters are racists or some other bollocks that has been done more than John Inmans arse.

Above is one massive reason it wont. The EU wont budge on immigration and want to insist that Poland and Hungary take lots of new people. Rightly so of course as if you want to be in the club you have to accept the rules. Problem is if said refugees are dispatched to those countries god help them. The people in Eastern Europe wont have it simple as. They will take to the streets.

So even now with Greece about to go tits up again, the EU have 2 countries that may either be forced to leave or have serious unrest to contend with. The EU is fucked, an absolute basket case, run by idiots who have no understanding of the real world whatsoever.

I know it wont happen but if Le Penn wins in France I will laugh my bollocks off. The whole ridiculous thing could be dead in the water by the end of the year. Wonder what our Scottish neighbours would think about that?
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Greece will be out of the EU by 2018, it will be a domino effect after that
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