Jazzman
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How true, how true
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue
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so your long term answer is to just spend a bucket load of cash every year. surely that can't be answer all the time. we need to stop beign so reliant on it.
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15/16 Iheanacho was involved in a goal every 61minutes
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spend until something comes out of the academy ,if nothing comes out of the academy spend some more.
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it doesnt just have to be academy players. we need to start beign smarter when buying players. spurs are a great example of that. spend barely anything yet find really good players. the centrebacks, alli ...
Disagree. He could regularly start for some of the teams in the top 8 if given confidence and put in a system that play's his strengths. I could see him regularly starting for Southampton, West Brom or Everton if they sell Lukaku.
But he wouldn't have gotten on this graph because his sample size of 8 goals isn't enough. He was involved in 10-15% of our goals, the cut-off on that graph is 30%
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You mean like Real Madrid and Barcelona then?
It's not even that big an advantage anymore as the Prem is awash with money.
When we had the advantage after 11/12 it was wasted with poor buys.
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To be fair Barcelona's most successful period with Pep was built with mainly academy players including the likes of Pique, busquets and pedro whom at the time were pretty much unknowns with the occasional big transfer like a Henry/Ibrahimovic thrown in. Admittedly some of those academy players were once in a generation players that are likely never to be seen again but big spending was certainly not a factor in their success during that era as much as it has been recently with neymar/suarez. Now Real Madrid is a different ball game but even then it still took them a good 12 years of consecutive big spending for them to finally land another champion league. While Athletico Madrid and Dortmund have shown the past 5 years,you don't always need big spending to succeed and a good foundation/system built on academy prospects can also work when done right and can produce successes.
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Rose, Walker, Dier, Son and Kane .
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"WHILST ON THE PITCH"
I doubt his involvment was less than 30% of the goals scored when he was on the pitch
People always point to Rose, Walker and Kane.
If we had those 3 players they'd be getting torn to shreds on here.
Rose was shit until he was 25. He was still on loan at relegation candidates Sunderland at 23. Compare him to someone like 20 year old Denayer, who people have already written off as shit, and don't want him anywhere near the squad next summer - a lot of the time because apparently "if they're getting relegated he can't be doing well" or "he wouldn't still be on loan if he was up to it" etc.
Kane couldn't get a game in the championship at 22, compare him to Patrick Roberts, who is 2 years younger, has Champions League experience and people are still unimpressed with, most don't think he'll make the grade.
This fanbase doesn't have the patience to accept that players bought in their late teens/early 20's might not be world beaters right away when they're playing on loan, god forbid what they'd do if the players were making their mistakes on the pitch like the Spurs fullbacks got to do for years before Pochettino.
You only need to look at the Iheanacho thread lately to see that.
I agree with what is being said here but Son cost around £22M so can't really be included
Kane
Rose
Walker
Alli
Dembele
Airewereld
Vertonghen
Dier
Wanyama
Danish kid
Everyone above cost less than 15 million. That's a likely starting 11. Outside of Son. They often screw up their expensive buys;
Lamela, Jansen, and the Spanish striker that got sent back. Perhaps they've learnt something. Buy talent, not hype.
And also stay patient. 2 things we don't do very well. That said we win trophies and they haven't done that too well either ;p
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This season
Moussa Sissoko - £30mil
Vincent Janssen - £19mil
Nkoudo - £9mil
Sold Bale and bought
Soldado - £25mil
Lamela - £25mil
Paulinho - £17mil
Eriksen - £11mil(bargain)
Capoue - £9mil
Chiceres - £8mil
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The good buys there are the exceptions not the rule.
Spurs have patience with the young players. They will accept mediocre seasons. They had to wait a long time for Rose and Walker to become good.
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Is a hugely frustrating part of our club these days...Unless they cost and arm and a leg players don't get much of a chance with us. If we signed 22 year old CDM Vincent Kompany for £6mil tomorrow he'd be out the door before he was 24
Fans on here are just as bad... Amount of times I read that player just simply wouldn't be good enough for us is ridiculous. Suggested we should look at someone like Idrissa Gueye last season, instantly shut down because he played for Aston Villa.. Everton snap him up for £7mil and he's been their 2nd best player this season.
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yes those 2 at the top cost a bit. but the vast majority of players in there team, pretty much there best players, didn't cost that much. if theres a world class player available yea we should spend big and go for him, but we need to start looking at smarter buys instead of spending big money all the time. it just makes more sense
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as has been said barcelonas best team was built on academy players. i dont want to end up like real madrid. they are unique and i wouldn't want us to end up just buying galacticos every year like they do. they are successful now, but for years with players like zidane, ronaldo... they didn't win the champions league and didn't end up winning everything. spending big money doesnt always guarantee success either. we need a balance of buying world class potential, young players and finding some bargains.
some of our best players didn't cost that much. hart, kompany, zaba.
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