Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

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I'm confused re bravo. His all round performance was ok, I thought he looked confident before the game. But you do look at the first goal and although not a mistake think could he have saved it? Like I said not an error, and maybe we are only analysing because of his shots to saves ratio, but I do think the top keepers possibly save that shot. I'd just like him to pull off one world class save, genuinely don't think he has made one of those since joining.
 
blue ranger said:
I'm confused re bravo. His all round performance was ok, I thought he looked confident before the game. But you do look at the first goal and although not a mistake think could he have saved it? Like I said not an error, and maybe we are only analysing because of his shots to saves ratio, but I do think the top keepers possibly save that shot. I'd just like him to pull off one world class save, genuinely don't think he has made one of those since joining.
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He hasn't made any of any description bar one that he tipped over that time,de gea would have saved it with his foot based on how many like that he saves
I don't want to see him again
Rags game will be all crosses and he is so naff at those
 
blue ranger said:
I'm confused re bravo. His all round performance was ok, I thought he looked confident before the game. But you do look at the first goal and although not a mistake think could he have saved it? Like I said not an error, and maybe we are only analysing because of his shots to saves ratio, but I do think the top keepers possibly save that shot. I'd just like him to pull off one world class save, genuinely don't think he has made one of those since joining.
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If he or any other keeper have saved that first goal it will be because of a fluke, not a keepers WC reaction. It was hit so hard and at such short distance that by the time he had clocked the direction, the net was rippling. The only way IMO that shot was going to be saved by him or any keeper was if it hit them square on.
 
The ball was fucking volleyed at pace from 5 yards out for the first goal! The only way he saves it is if it's straight at him which it wasn't. De Gea saves them with his feet often when they're right at him, that's not great goalkeeping its luck!
The absolute shithouse attempts to close the cross (again) was the cause of that goal, not a keeper incapable of making saves.
 
Bill said:
wont happen but fancy a poll?
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99% of the fans want us to top 'pissing around at the back' and yell shooooot when any player is within 40 yards of goal. Are they right to?

He was decent again yesterday and this myth that the defenders don't have confindnce in him is laughable. If they didn't have confidence in him, then they would be firing the ball all angles.

We lost yesterday, but Bravo, Otamendi and Toure were about the only players to carry themselves at the standard required.
Silva was outstanding but we know what happened there.

There's no arguement that Bravo shouldn't have done better in his time here, but he certainly wasn't our problem yesterday.
 
mosssideblue said:
I admire him because I know what he is capable of and am willing to give him time and a decent defence in front of him.
Many keep saying he hasn't won us any games, but when that question was reversed (and has been several times on here), how many games has he single handedly lost us - to which no one seems to want to respond to - funny that
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Barcelona? Chelsea? Are two for me.
You know what he is capable of? Did you honestly watch a lot of him prior to city then?

Did you have similar thoughts about Bony? Jo?
Joe Hart did very well with that defence and worse defences than Bravo has played behind. Tom Heaton makes wonder save as does Pickford and De Gea week after week. Yet to see Claudio make one. I haven't seen one thing to make me believe he is a top keeper. I have only seen him play for city so I am not basing my views on hopes or wishes or past lives at other clubs in different leagues. He just doesn't look good enough to me in a city shirt, in the premier league. You hope he will improve, hope being the operative word.
 
bondsman said:
Barcelona? Chelsea? Are two for me.
You know what he is capable of? Did you honestly watch a lot of him prior to city then?

Did you have similar thoughts about Bony? Jo?
Joe Hart did very well with that defence and worse defences than Bravo has played behind. Tom Heaton makes wonder save as does Pickford and De Gea week after week. Yet to see Claudio make one. I haven't seen one thing to make me believe he is a top keeper. I have only seen him play for city so I am not basing my views on hopes or wishes or past lives at other clubs in different leagues. He just doesn't look good enough to me in a city shirt, in the premier league. You hope he will improve, hope being the operative word.
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I really think more should watch a lot of other prem games,i watch every one on the box that don't clash with ours and it's real easy to see what other keepers are saving and how sharp a lot of their reflexes are and saving things bravo can only dream about,come back and make an honest assessment of his keeping skills then
(not aimed at you)
 
schfc6 said:
99% of the fans want us to top 'pissing around at the back' and yell shooooot when any player is within 40 yards of goal. Are they right to?

He was decent again yesterday and this myth that the defenders don't have confindnce in him is laughable. If they didn't have confidence in him, then they would be firing the ball all angles.

We lost yesterday, but Bravo, Otamendi and Toure were about the only players to carry themselves at the standard require
Silva was outstanding but we know what happened there.

There's no arguement that Bravo shouldn't have done better in his time here, but he certainly wasn't our problem yesterday.
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Any outfield player would have saved the first goal, all he had to do was stick a leg out, and the second was straight at him and he dived out the way. The punch in the first half was a joke, and if we had a real keeper we would be in the final. The only time he shows real effort is when he needs to get out of the way, and we will get beat on Thursday if he plays.
 
Corky said:
Any outfield player would have saved the first goal, all he had to do was stick a leg out, and the second was straight at him and he dived out the way. The punch in the first half was a joke, and if we had a real keeper we would be in the final. The only time he shows real effort is when he needs to get out of the way, and we will get beat on Thursday if he plays.
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Sorry mate, but that's horse shit.
It would be a 1/1000 chance of saving that first goal.
Similar for the second.

Blame him when he carries some blame. Not when he carries non.
 
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Corky said:
Yeah top five keeper in the world you said - I doubt he would make City's top five on merit this season.
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He was considered one of the top 5 in the World. That was just a fact. That's what he'd been voted for his previous two seasons.
 
He's wank & never gets near any shots, pathetic so called attempts at saves yesterday, he's getting praise for not dropping one in his own net now, laughable. The manager has managed to squeeze him back into the team at the expense of a better goalkeeper to prove a point . It's not helped the team which is the most important thing .
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Could see where you're coming from if Willy had only played one or two games; but he hasn't. Caballero has played several games and proved himself to be a better shot stopper.
Where did I say I was blaming him entirely for this seasons failings? There are many reasons why we have disappointed this season: Poor finishing, weak fullbacks, injuries and many other issues; if you think bravo isn't one of the reasons we have failed though then you're wrong. Top teams have a keeper who can win points for their teams on his own, but there's not been a single occasion bravo has done that for us this season
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I agree Willy is a better shot stopper. I didn't mean you specifically...I meant this board in general.

Highlighted bit is a nice cliche but not true. See Pep's Barcelona and Zidane's Real.
 
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