The battle for 3rd place

Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
You don't give Picasso crayons to paint with..

The squad has been allowed to age before our very eyes and hasn't been replenished to the standards expected to compete, on all levels.

Let's see what the man does with a paint brush before we call him out!
Click to expand...
Crayons would have suited Picasso.

Edit: didn't see post above.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
He's stating facts, we aren't Madrid, Barca, Bayern, juve, it's his MO to make us such, that doesn't happen in 1 season with a club...

By all means pat yourself on the back if the season is a wash out, that goes for the rest of the doubters, personally though I see a sense of realism in what he says, honest, rather than belittling..
Click to expand...
You're missing out on a treat of a thread made on the back of these non comments..
 
we have failed against our immediate rivals Spuds,Chavs and Dippers we only took 2 points from a possible 18 , if we had 16 more points in the bag we would be champions , i think we have a serious lack of belief when we play "six pointers" against our closest rivals , if Pep can turn these big games into wins next season , we can win the title.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
we have failed against our immediate rivals Spuds,Chavs and Dippers we only took 2 points from a possible 18 , if we had 16 more points in the bag we would be champions , i think we have a serious lack of belief when we play "six pointers" against our closest rivals , if Pep can turn these big games into wins next season , we can win the title.
Click to expand...
All very well but a Luiz sending off and a penalty and sending off against spuds would be two more of those six pointers. I don't put it down to belief because we have played these teams off the park in some cases. I put it down to shit finishing end of..
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Fair enough but he has called HIMSELF out. Admitted that if city were a big club he'd be gone by now. And he's right.

He is the managerial equivalent of a big name player signing for a club he thinks are beneath him and thinks they should be grateful to have him.

Mark my words, views like mine will be in the majority sooner rather than later.

He's taking the piss.
Click to expand...

Not sure how you reach that conclusion based on his comments, nor how you think this job is a "filler." Why not choose Utd then? He could have gone nearly wherever he wanted, or waited another year. The irony is Mourinho has displayed in word and deed more of this attitude than Guardiola has. And by the way what has Pellegrini accomplished since he left?

Pep knew this was a longer-term rebuild the moment he set foot in here, and before then too. City aren't a "big club" because City weren't expected to win everything immediately, unlike Barca, Bayern, et al.

You may be right that he ends up not successful, or as successful as he or we or the club want him to be, but slagging him off for choosing City as his sloppy seconds date to the prom is a little much, if not outright silly.

IMO part of the reason he might not achieve next season is because it's going to be far tougher to fill the holes with Pep's Plan A players than the "It's Quiet" thread seems to think. Another part is that I don't know if he'll adapt his tactics to the league the way he could to achieve more victories, and in that regard maybe you'll be right that your view will be more widely held.
 
Last edited:
Kazzydeyna said:
I think the quote from the great man himself sums up what he thinks of city.

“In my situation at a big club: I’m sacked. I’m out. Sure. Definitely,” he said when asked if he felt his job was under pressure after a season of relative underachievement.

He is basically using us as a filler until an easier job in Italy comes up, or until he gets the chance to return to Barcelona.

I find it incredulous that circa 75% of this forum think he's doing a good job whereas it felt like 90% thought Pellers was "shit" last season because he only won one trophy, only made top four in the league, and only got us to our first ever champs league semi final. And all that after being very publicly and disrespectfully cuckolded half way through the season.

We've waited 4 years for this man. Allowed his shadow to undermine two superior men and arguably better managers (for the English league at the very least).

I hope he achieves next season, there's no real reason why he wouldn't, but if not, what will the excuses be then?
Click to expand...

A big club from Pep's perspective is a big club on the european stage. City are big domestically but in terms of europe we're not. It's reality. If in his first season at Barca he had finished 3rd or below he would have been sacked - like his predecessor Rijkaard was. Why you're butthurt about facts is quite odd.

MP had been at the club years, had time to get his ideas across (whatever they were), had multiple windows with many, many millions to spend and finished on 66pts. If you don't think things have improved under Pep, the structure of the team, the way we play, then you're pretty clueless tbh. So is it the CL campaigns? If you think we'd have beaten this year's Monaco last year I don't know what to say to you. We had an easy ride to the SF last season. We'd have smashed last year's PSG this season.
MP himself has stated multiple times he wanted to make it public he was leaving.

Rest of your post is too stupid to bother responding to.
 
Guardiola is here for one reason, and one reason only, put the Champions League trophy in the cabinet. That is the goal of Bayern manager, Barca manager, Real Madrid manager...and those clubs are there or thereabouts every year and always win domestic silverware. City got to the Semi once and operate in a country where the football is unforgiving, there is no winter break, and half the games are played in inclement weather every three days against teams who regularly upset the form table.

So, I'm very surprised to hear the nonsense of him supposedly undermining the club with his comments. He knows why he was brought here and he knows that the team's performance has been placed at his feet and it would have been considered completely inadequate to those clubs. In three years at Bayern, he won trophy after trophy, but he didn't win THE trophy, which is why many say he failed there, especially after his predecessor won the treble! At Barca, he took a poor Barca team and won everything in sight. However, Bayern are expected to win almost everything and Barca only ever had one actual opponent for silverware. Not so in England, and long may it continue!

He has spoken repeatedly about City's lack of history in Europe, and how we need to learn and mature in Europe, it is clear that he has a mandate to elevate City's European stature. The ultimate hope, of course, is to put the trophy in the cabinet, but I doubt anyone seriously considered the ridiculous notion that started when he was hired...in the running for four trophies!! Oh, so were Leicester, Spurs and Arsenal!

I know it is squeaky bum time for the CL positions, and we still face two potentially large banana skins, against managers who are no mugs, but some people seem to have forgotten that we are in Year 9 of the project, have since won every domestic honor, with TWO Premierships and a Semi-Final against Real Madrid that we lost by 1 stuffy, deflected goal after playing like shit!

I believe we are still the most successful club in England over the last 5 seasons, and Phase III of The Project is just beginning. Let's not lose perspective, especially those of you who haven't lived the last 50 years of being a City fan.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
You don't give Picasso crayons to paint with..

The squad has been allowed to age before our very eyes and hasn't been replenished to the standards expected to compete, on all levels.

Let's see what the man does with a paint brush before we call him out!
Click to expand...
Totally agree lessons have been learnt, and will be rectified
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
You don't give Picasso crayons to paint with..

The squad has been allowed to age before our very eyes and hasn't been replenished to the standards expected to compete, on all levels.

Let's see what the man does with a paint brush before we call him out!
Click to expand...
Why I was at the Picasso museum in Malaga only yesterday!! He did the odd thing with crayons.. :))))
 
Eds said:
Ian Holloway on Talkshite this morning reckons Arse will qualify for CL instead of us ad WBA are a tough nut to crack!
Click to expand...

Forget that. Until last night I thought Watford would be easy but they clearly aren't on the beach just yet
 
Benarbia said:
Forget that. Until last night I thought Watford would be easy but they clearly aren't on the beach just yet
Click to expand...

Chelsea most definitely where though in spells.

We have 2 very winnable games its that simple and form suggests we will win both.
 
Win by 2 or more tonight and I might be able to go into Sunday a little more relaxed


Who am I kidding
 
Benarbia said:
Forget that. Until last night I thought Watford would be easy but they clearly aren't on the beach just yet
Click to expand...
Chelsea played the reserves,who played like they'd been on the piss for 3 days with the senior players... which they probably had

Also Watford had their key centre half sent off so will be missing on Sunday

If we don't go there and win comfortably, we deserve fuck all
 
chaddblue said:
Chelsea played the reserves,who played like they'd been on the piss for 3 days with the senior players... which they probably had

Also Watford had their key centre half sent off so will be missing on Sunday

If we don't go there and win comfortably, we deserve fuck all
Click to expand...
Correct! That said if we win tonight by four and the Tarquins only win by two tomorrow then I think even if we did lose our GD would be enough. That said I want 3rd place
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top