General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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hilts said:
Look at the sentence - a labour type policy -

I never said it was their social care policy past or present. It is a policy that would hit the richest hardest. That is more a labour type policy. If you think that is not the case fair enough. You state the policy is unfair which was my immediate reaction so what is labours fairer policy on social care
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It's a Tory version of a "Labour type policy" which demonstrates their/her complete and utter lack of decency, understanding or fairness.

hilts said:
I'm not missing anything we are talking about social care and you posted about several rich people and the gap between rich and poor in general. So how does this policy help the rich? What fair policy do you have?
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If you'd read my previous reply, which you replied to, you'd have seen what I think is fair.

"If the richest individuals and companies paid a little more, or in some cases, some tax then we could solve the problem for everyone, fairly."

I'm not talking about those who have houses/estates worth, say half a million or less, these aren't the richest by any real means, but they are the ones who will suffer the most under this poorly thought out idea...

I've nothing against giving people aspirations, but this policy completely goes against that and punishes those who've not got quite enough to be really wealthy.

On that note, it's goodnight from me as this is seemingly falling on deaf ears and, at this hour and after this number of beers, I've no intention of doing the maths for you.

Socialists are not against wealth and it's creation...

 
Theresa May keeps banging on that she is the right one to negotiate Brexit, fuck me! Have you seen her "U-turn, and crumble" in a interviews she's given! She won't even enter a debate with any of the other candidates, an accepted tradition for as long as I can remember, how can she be trusted to negotiate one of the most important decisions for decades?
May is an absolute disaster, she's now the laughing stock of Europe, as the other EU leaders watch her crumble, u-turn, avoid answering the simplest of questions, and repeat a tired mantra of "strong and stable" something she quite evidently is not.
 
Laughing my socks off at May talking about standing up to extremism. It now appears that MI5 asked for and got the lifting of draconian control orders on Libyan extremists in the UK, gave them back their passports and quietly encouraged them to go back to Libya to fight & overthrow Gaddafi. Then we quietly let them back in again, fully trained as fighters. While Abedi wasn't one of those under a control order, a number of the people he associated with were.

MI5 come under the remit of the Home Office and the Home Secretary at the time this was authorised was - you've guessed it - Theresa May. So she was responsible for sending known extremists to be trained and fight abroad, then re-admitting them into the UK without re-imposing any restrictions on them.
 
Damocles said:
Relative poverty in the UAE is equivalent to £500 a month total household income.

You're not just wrong on this but you're making the type of wrong posts that a man like you shouldn't be making.
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I do not and never have, lived in the UAE.

However:

Salaries in Qatar
According to 2014 Gulf Business Salary Survey, Qatar is the second best paying nation in the GCC in terms of average salaries, after Saudi Arabia.

The salaries in Qatar were 11.68 percent more than that in the UAE, with an average of $11,473 per month.
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That is take home remember.
 
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City Raider said:
Latest polls have her lead down to 6 points. They're nearly in disarray. She's going to have to take him on.
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Poll of polls has her at 10 points up.

Odds checker are giving you 8/1 Labour win and 12/1 ON for the Tories.

There's fortunes to be made there.
 
If Tory MPs had to do like local councillors and declare personal and family pecuniary interests and not vote, they wouldn't get half their legislation through. Poll tax (they've saved millions on rates), corporation tax, higher rate income tax, free schools (there must be money in it, no one would have that daft policy for just private provider v. anti-council ideology surely) etc etc
 
Ricster said:
He's being honest. I've never seen a leader gamble so much on honesty
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I tend to think he's a man of principle. I really dont see him ever being able to lead, as PM, a programme to replace trident. I can't see him leading a cabinet that approves the contracts, oversees the programme etc. Surely he would resign rather than be known as the PM who replaced trident? Doesn't that mean that he's fighting the election on the presumption that he will overturn Labour's manifesto commitment to support the replacement of trident? Is that being honest?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Laughing my socks off at May talking about standing up to extremism. It now appears that MI5 asked for and got the lifting of draconian control orders on Libyan extremists in the UK, gave them back their passports and quietly encouraged them to go back to Libya to fight & overthrow Gaddafi. Then we quietly let them back in again, fully trained as fighters. While Abedi wasn't one of those under a control order, a number of the people he associated with were.

MI5 come under the remit of the Home Office and the Home Secretary at the time this was authorised was - you've guessed it - Theresa May. So she was responsible for sending known extremists to be trained and fight abroad, then re-admitting them into the UK without re-imposing any restrictions on them.
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Yes, that seems the long and the short of it, but back in the day they were our extremists, you know the good ones. Now, not so much.

I wonder what happened to the good old Mujahideen we supported back in the 80's when they were fighting the Russians? The USA loved them so much they sent Rambo!



Oh yeah, now I remember what happened to them.
 
The Tory campaign has been a disaster so far. I think they will win the election but not by the margin they hoped a few weeks ago when they called it. May's relying on people backing her to lead Brexit. Corbyn has done okay but was so far behind at the start he was always going to struggle to turn public opinion. He's been helped by May's poor performance.
 
masterwig said:
The Tory campaign has been a disaster so far. I think they will win the election but not by the margin they hoped a few weeks ago when they called it. May's relying on people backing her to lead Brexit. Corbyn has done okay but was so far behind at the start he was always going to struggle to turn public opinion. He's been helped by May's poor performance.
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I'd say there is a much, much clearer difference between Labour and Tories and people like what Corbyn has put forward. Not a Corbyn fan but the manifesto and his recent public performances have impressed me. May trots out the same cliches day in day out.
 
taleofbluehalves said:
I'd say there is a much, much clearer difference between Labour and Tories and people like what Corbyn has put forward. Not a Corbyn fan but the manifesto and his recent public performances have impressed me. May trots out the same cliches day in day out.
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In my view all this campaign is showing is how bad a leader Corbyn is.

All the polls pretty much say that people trust Labour to look after their families more than the Tories. People just like the manifesto more than the Tories. They are split on his defence strategy.

Yet he's still somewhere around 10 points behind. Every leadership poll puts him 20 or 30 points back.

This tells me that a proper centre left leader with a Blair level of charisma and political skill would have had a Thatcher like landslide here
 
Damocles said:
In my view all this campaign is showing is how bad a leader Corbyn is.

All the polls pretty much say that people trust Labour to look after their families more than the Tories. People just like the manifesto more than the Tories. They are split on his defence strategy.

Yet he's still somewhere around 10 points behind. Every leadership poll puts him 20 or 30 points back.

This tells me that a proper centre left leader with a Blair level of charisma and political skill would have had a Thatcher like landslide here
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Of course, had that leader been in post, there wouldn't have been a general election.
 
Damocles said:
I honestly thought you'd moved to Dubai. Not sure why now. Did you consider moving or have I pulled that out of nowhere?
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I think I may have thought about moving there four years ago (Dubai is a good place to live and the rent is about 20% cheaper with similar levels of pay), but my industry isn't regulated out there and it's very much the Wild West so best avoided by anyone with a decent level of qualifications so I was forced off to Qatar instead.

It's similar, just not quite as relaxed from a religious point of view. I can't smoke, drink water or listen to music in public (including my car) during daylight hours for the next 27 days. Oh and from July a 100% "sin tax" will come in alcohol which will take the price to £20 for a bottle of Stella in a bar (so I won't be going out ever again).
 
masterwig said:
The Tory campaign has been a disaster so far. I think they will win the election but not by the margin they hoped a few weeks ago when they called it. May's relying on people backing her to lead Brexit. Corbyn has done okay but was so far behind at the start he was always going to struggle to turn public opinion. He's been helped by May's poor performance.
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Strong and stable to negotiate our exit from the EU but not able to debate with the leaders of other political parties in this country? (Reports that Amber Rudd will take her place)
 
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