General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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'tinternet tells me it's between £326 and £844.50 a year. Soooo about £6 a week minimum. As long as people know they are going to lose it and and it's not just the top 5% paying more.
Ah wait, you're not paying more you're just not getting as much relief. A little like the bedroom tax argument - you do not have to pay the state any more money, you will simply receive a smaller hand-out from the taxpayer.

Telegraphs article states it allows one partner to transfer up to £1,150 per anum tax free personal allowance to their partner. That is worth up to £230 per year to them. I just divided one by the number of weeks in a year. I assume if the Telegraph would go balls out with the worst case scenario?
 
they are paying for it now. Debt is only slowed not reversed - household debt is rising to terrifying levels and youngsters like mine are racking up huge Uni debts. Don't kid yourself they are sitting pretty.
Uni debts you say, you mean the tuition fees brought in by the Labour Party , champions of the working class my arse.
 
If labour win Corbyn will again be conciliatory to at least some of the PLP who have sulked (I say some as I cannot see that pair of twats benn and kinnock forgiven) and be offered chances to be in the cabimet some will, with power again suddenly be willing.
Clive lewis will definately be back, but I could see cooper, milliband, javis and chuka be willing to get involved, I honestly cannot see abbot keeping the position in fact if the 4 above still sulked, then with lewis back he can shuffle raynor, long-bailey and gardiner about, and put ine in for abbot
Thornberry and McDonnell wil stay as is.

The eagle sisters amd owen smith may even be willing to return, being in power is all they craved.

Their second album was rubbish - spoiled by all that sobbing..............
 
Uni debts you say, you mean the tuition fees brought in by the Labour Party , champions of the working class my arse.

yes I do - brought in by New Labour - a sham of a party - Tory Lite. When Bliar was elected leader I quit the party. Fucking snake oil salesman. People - rightly - savage Clegg over his about turn but remember New Labour warned the Tories were going to bring fees in and said they wouldn't then once elected said the would - the start of Bliar and New Labours cuntishness.
 
And who ran up this huge debt in the first place ?

Around 56% of GDP by 2010 - by July 2016 83 % of GDP. Remember Gideon the historian told us it would all be sorted by now? New Labour played a part as did global financial markets but the coalition then the Tories did fuck all to help us.
 
I don't recognise right or left, it's just a tag to pigeon hole views, I don't believe there's anyone who 100% Tory or 100% labour , it's a mixture of ideas , I prefer to go by what I've seen , the evidence of my own eyes really.The Labour Party is appealing to younger people because what they say is simplistic , easy to understand & sounds like common sense, they don't remember Labour in power , especially a Corbyn type Labour Party .
Hope you are not implying a whole generation of young as not smart enough to understand the complex policies of Tory and maybe they are looking at Labour because of what they have seen so far of this Tory party.
 
Telegraphs article states it allows one partner to transfer up to £1,150 per anum tax free personal allowance to their partner. That is worth up to £230 per year to them. I just divided one by the number of weeks in a year. I assume if the Telegraph would go balls out with the worst case scenario?

I got it from here https://www.gov.uk/married-couples-allowance/overview
It's not important; as long as people know they are going to lose it and it's not just the 'top 5%' having money taken from them.
 
Hope you are not implying a whole generation of young as not smart enough to understand the complex policies of Tory and maybe they are looking at Labour because of what they have seen so far of this Tory party.
Certainly not, most are probably very intelligent but you can't buy experience .
 
yes I do - brought in by New Labour - a sham of a party - Tory Lite. When Bliar was elected leader I quit the party. Fucking snake oil salesman. People - rightly - savage Clegg over his about turn but remember New Labour warned the Tories were going to bring fees in and said they wouldn't then once elected said the would - the start of Bliar and New Labours cuntishness.
You see , we agree on something , United by our hatred of Tony Blair.
 
What he wants to give is fine and in a perfect world that'd be great, his problem which most of the left leaning side are ignoring is that he can't fucking fund it and is going to borrow borrow borrow to pay for it all.
It's always been the same with the Labour Party and will never ever change. Hopefully enough will see sense and accept we actually can't have our cake and eat it.


Apart from Yaya obviously.
If we continue to minimise pay to working people & maximise profit for corporations who then avoid tax, is it any wonder tax isn't enough to run the country ?
 
Just watching the news and May in Slough today - again in an industrial unit with busses parked behind her so you can't see an empty hall and in front of her the contents of those two busses - activists bussed in to shout and wave plackards.

Contrast that with Corbyn - yet another huge rally in the open and open to the public - quite the contrast
 
Just watching the news and May in Slough today - again in an industrial unit with busses parked behind her so you can't see an empty hall and in front of her the contents of those two busses - activists bussed in to shout and wave plackards.

Contrast that with Corbyn - yet another huge rally in the open and open to the public - quite the contrast
Oh come on mate , they're both stage managed , Corbyns gang shout louder that's all, you can't say the reporting has been even handed either.
By the way Blair was a good speaker with lots of fans .
 
What your ilk don't understand is that Corbyn is purely a man of peace and that's all he's ever wanted and fought for. At the time he was fighting against Maggie's determination to fight terrorism only with violence and not through discussion, something that very rarely ends well. He also fought for the human rights of the prisoners (we all know how that ended!) and he was attending a meeting in Parliament about prison conditions and re-education of prisoners when they had a minutes silence for all the people killed in the conflict, including a civilian who was killed by the SAS during the ambush.

My ilk.............

Clear sign, IMO, that you are unable to face up to the facts of Corbyn's past and have lost the argument.

I guess when he was part of the group that issued, following the Brighton bombing, this statement:

"“It certainly appears to be the case that the British only sit up and take notice [of Ireland] when they are bombed into it” He was just "...fighting against Maggie's determination to fight terrorism..."

I could give you other examples - but you, IMO, are not open to any objective consideration. I just think that the truth will be clear to others so your continued denial and rebranding will have limited impact on the views of others
 
Certainly not, most are probably very intelligent but you can't buy experience .
Not probably - most ARE very intelligent and they do not need experience to see what is happening in front of them - actually not all experienced are thinking about them so they have to themselves.
 
Oh come on mate , they're both stage managed , Corbyns gang shout louder that's all, you can't say the reporting has been even handed either.
By the way Blair was a good speaker with lots of fans .

May's ARE stage managed. She held one in a unit 2 miles away from where I live. All the guys who work there were dead chuffed. They got sent home on full pay to make room for her at the request of her security detail.

Sure Corbyn's have an element of his support there but how do you fill a town centre with hand picked support? How do you keep Joe Public out of a town centre FFS. Also tonight was simulcasted to I think 6 other locations they said. For a chaotic party to stage manage to that extent surely makes them a shoe in for a win and more than able to run a country !!
 
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