Fintan O'Toole's provocative piece in the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/...1419773522000&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&_r=1
looking at the news today the EU side are taking the lead in the neg's setting out what will be discussed first - and the money is at the forefront - before any talk of trade.
The one thing that I fairly clear here is across the whole of parliament they haven't a fucking clue how or what they are going to get a deal. They're basically going into the negotiations trying to wing it and see what happens. Brexit is now the elephant in the room in every aspect of British life and it's already cost £130m in an election that wasn't necessary. By the time Britain has left and paid the divorce bill etc the UK is going to have to make up billions and billions of lot money.
To get a good deal, something is going to have to give, it's as simple as that and at some point the Govt is going to have to stick two fingers up to the 52% and say for the good of the country it's impossible to just leave with the situation we're in. The only way to a reasonable deal that I can see would be a Norway/Switzerland type deal but that would include giving up certain rights such as immigration. I would like to see something like that for a ten year period whilst Britain trains its nurses and doctors etc in preparation for another referendum in ten years where one of the options should be to either remain like that or leave.
Sticking two fingers up at the 52% isn't the answer. They're just not going to take that lying down. We do need to buy time, its ridiculous to believe that 40 years of econmic integration can be overturned in 2 years. A lengthy transitional arrangement is essential, but it does need to be on the basis of a phased separation, starting with legal separation, eventually ending up with a preferred long term trading arrangement.
Can I ask, cos I don't get it, why it's okay for the EU to pump €80BN a month into the Euro, for quantative easing and it's okay, but we're not allowed and we have to live with austerity measures?
I never quite understand why it's alright for one, but not another, considering the strength of the pound is not calamitous as one would expect at this stage.
I'm not an expert, by any means, in economics so no need to be a Dick about a question.
I asked why is it okay for Europe to prop up the Euro with quantative easing?
Don't bother answering me, actually.
Cheers.
Like you mate I am completely baffled by how this works, is it damaging or is it not damaging.
Apparently dropping from €80BN a month to €60BN!
That's nice, eh?
You know, I read that this easing has boosted the European markets!!
So, is that a false inflation or not?
Is anyone prepared to explain it (less the one clown), so we understand what's what?
I know there are financial wizards aplenty, on here.
Cheers.
Like you mate I am completely baffled by how this works, is it damaging or is it not damaging.
Hey smalla, Is it a good time to mention the UK right now is doing the same? It's what central banks do when we are fucked, all your bigga brain needs to know in today's schooling
I'm sorry but just to be clear "And so it begins". Do you mean, in your opinion of course, the government going through with the act of national self immolation or that they are trying to squirm out of leaving the EU in all but name.Meanwhile in other news David Davis, having promised the mother of all rows with the EU over their insistence that divorce proceedings must be settled before trade talks, meekly accepted on Friday that the UK would agree to the EU's timetable.
At around the same time spreadsheet Phil stated that the economy, jobs and prosperity should be the priority for the UK in the Brexit negotiations ( no mention of immigration or sovereignty).
And so it begins.
I mean the dismantling of May's hard Brexit.I'm sorry but just to be clear "And so it begins". Do you mean, in your opinion of course, the government going through with the act of national self immolation or that they are trying to squirm out of leaving the EU in all but name.
I mean the dismantling of May's hard Brexit.
Ok. personally I think a lot of people in the Tory party are beginning to get the jitters. The reality is beginning to dawn as to what a disaster this really is for the country. If they could have their way without any adverse consequenses or alternatively, blame it on someone else, I think they would bin it today. You can see that in the changing language of the politicians. In my opinion they are looking for ways to row back and dress it up as Brexit. You can bet your life there will be meetings going on behind closed doors as to how this can be acheived. I may be a bit premature in making a prediction but I think Brexit, in the form that most people visualised it, i.e the UK putting two fingers up to the EU and making a clean break, with an end to immigration and making up for it with the UK doing deals with governments all over the world, is largely dead. All that will happen now is that the government will backtrack with it's tail between it's legs and dress it up to the Brexiteers as some kind of victory.I mean the dismantling of May's hard Brexit.