Article 50/Brexit Negotiations

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Has anyone here actually changed their minds since the brexit vote? Either way ? I am interested to know if people are having 2nd thoughts about their original decisions

About 8 times.

I voted remain but saw the plus side of leave as I dislike what the EU has become and it's stripping of sovereignty of its nation members.

That said there will be a lot of economic uncertainty and even the most ardent Tories must admit May isn't fit to be Prime Minister.
 
About 8 times.

I voted remain but saw the plus side of leave as I dislike what the EU has become and it's stripping of sovereignty of its nation members.

That said there will be a lot of economic uncertainty and even the most ardent Tories must admit May isn't fit to be Prime Minister.
For 'uncertainty' read 'hardship'.
 
IMO there will be another referendum anyway, so we'll see how many have changed their minds.

Let's face it there really are only two options. "Hard BREXIT" or Remain. "Soft BREXIT" would only mean us paying for access to the single market for worse conditions, that being accepting free movement and the ECJ etc without a seat at the table, or a voice in the European parliament. That would be ludicrous.

So we're left with this minority government trying to push through a complete exit, which they won't be able to do as there are far too many remainers, on both/all sides, in Westminster who will oppose it, which will therefore lead to a 2nd referendum to get their plans ratified.

Then we either vote to walk off the cliff, or we stay in. But at least we'll all have a better idea of what we're actually voting for!

The GE result has basically guaranteed a 2nd referendum. The rest of the intervening 2 years is just very frustrating foreplay.
 
IMO there will be another referendum anyway, so we'll see how many have changed their minds.

Let's face it there really are only two options. "Hard BREXIT" or Remain. "Soft BREXIT" would only mean us paying for access to the single market for worse conditions, that being accepting free movement and the ECJ etc without a seat at the table, or a voice in the European parliament. That would be ludicrous.

So we're left with this minority government trying to push through a complete exit, which they won't be able to do as there are far too many remainers, on both/all sides, in Westminster who will oppose it, which will therefore lead to a 2nd referendum to get their plans ratified.

Then we either vote to walk off the cliff, or we stay in. But at least we'll all have a better idea of what we're actually voting for!

The GE result has basically guaranteed a 2nd referendum. The rest of the intervening 2 years is just very frustrating foreplay.
Can't see another referendum not this side of leaving the EU we either walk off your cliff into the unknown or stay in your dungeon getting rodgered by the big guy in the lederhosen every day.Some choice.
 
IMO there will be another referendum anyway, so we'll see how many have changed their minds.

Let's face it there really are only two options. "Hard BREXIT" or Remain. "Soft BREXIT" would only mean us paying for access to the single market for worse conditions, that being accepting free movement and the ECJ etc without a seat at the table, or a voice in the European parliament. That would be ludicrous.

So we're left with this minority government trying to push through a complete exit, which they won't be able to do as there are far too many remainers, on both/all sides, in Westminster who will oppose it, which will therefore lead to a 2nd referendum to get their plans ratified.

Then we either vote to walk off the cliff, or we stay in. But at least we'll all have a better idea of what we're actually voting for!

The GE result has basically guaranteed a 2nd referendum. The rest of the intervening 2 years is just very frustrating foreplay.

If there were to be a 2nd referendum, I would expect there to be 3 questions: 1) Accept the deal that has been negotiated 2) Leave with no deal 3) Remain
 
Can't see another referendum not this side of leaving the EU we either walk off your cliff into the unknown or stay in your dungeon getting rodgered by the big guy in the lederhosen every day.Some choice.
Should have voted for Red Ed back in the heady days of 2015, then none of this would have happened.
Ah those Tories, tearing the country apart again.
 
Bribed by our corrupt government though. Lets see how well those cars sell when the EU slaps a levy on their import
I feel sure that Nissan, who have confirmed plant expansion, have a better idea on how to conduct
business post Brexit than you do. Tell me where the EU has said it will slap an import levy on
British built cars.
 
I feel sure that Nissan, who have confirmed plant expansion, have a better idea on how to conduct
business post Brexit than you do. Tell me where the EU has said it will slap an import levy on
British built cars.

don't know about the EU but the SMMT here in the UK say if we get no deal and fall back on WTO rules there will be a 10% tariff imposed
 
don't know about the EU but the SMMT here in the UK say if we get no deal and fall back on WTO rules there will be a 10% tariff imposed
There may be, there may be not, the SMMT are not the ones who make the rules, so again just supposition.
There will be a tariff on imported EU goods if that happened too.
 
I feel sure that Nissan, who have confirmed plant expansion, have a better idea on how to conduct
business post Brexit than you do. Tell me where the EU has said it will slap an import levy on
British built cars.
Nissan UK sell no cars to the EU. They sell them to the Swiss Division as an intra-company transfer then the Swiss sell them into Europe. I expect other manufacturers in the UK will do the same. Having said that the pound to euro has dropped 12% already offsetting the 10% maximum EU tariff. Which is one reason why our exports are rising. Even before the referendum the world's laziest central banker was saying the pound was overvalued so the pound is finding it's real value.
 
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