Time will tell, we can't know that really. Sometimes missing player worth 5 mil. is dodging a bullet and sometimes paying 500 mil. would be fair (Messi, Ronaldo..). I can't talk much about what I think about Mbappe in that aspect as I really don't know how good he is, barely watched him but at that money and his age he is surely a risk.
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Time will tell, we can't know that really. Sometimes missing player worth 5 mil. is dodging a bullet and sometimes paying 500 mil. would be fair (Messi, Ronaldo..). I can't talk much about what I think about Mbappe in that aspect as I really don't know how good he is, barely watched him but at that money and his age he is surely a risk.
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He definitely has the potential to be in that bracket. But then again so did Robinho and Balotelli.Time will tell, we can't know that really. Sometimes missing player worth 5 mil. is dodging a bullet and sometimes paying 500 mil. would be fair (Messi, Ronaldo..). I can't talk much about what I think about Mbappe in that aspect as I really don't know how good he is, barely watched him but at that money and his age he is surely a risk.
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He's better than both Messi and Cris age by age, that's for sure, and I don't know any other way to judge a talent.Time will tell, we can't know that really. Sometimes missing player worth 5 mil. is dodging a bullet and sometimes paying 500 mil. would be fair (Messi, Ronaldo..). I can't talk much about what I think about Mbappe in that aspect as I really don't know how good he is, barely watched him but at that money and his age he is surely a risk.
You can't be serious. Both were well-known flops before being transferred here. City had no chance to even remotely touch a talent like Mbappe back then.He definitely has the potential to be in that bracket. But then again so did Robinho and Balotelli.
If City fall short of what Monaco are asking for, what do you think Monaco will do? 12 months time, Mbappe contract will be running down. I don't like Monaco's negotiating position.
I think the Sanchez transfer is subordinate to this. it has to be.
Agreed. I think City know the longer they wait for Sanchez, the more pressure it puts on Arsenal to make a decision. City made an initial bid to chum the waters and test Arsenal's resolve and it was rejected, which I'm sure was expected. Now they're just waiting for Arsenal to blink and will wait up until deadline day before going all in for him if they fall short with Mbappe.
In the meantime, I have to believe Mbappe is still the main focus and City are doing everything they can right now to secure the most money possible from player sales/loans (Nasri, Bony, Mangala, Delph, Denayer, Zinchenko, Roberts, Adarabioyo) in order to buffer their coffers while waiting to see if Monaco will lower their asking price to a more reasonable level.
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A. I'm not talking about when they joined City, I'm talking about them at the same (/similar) age to Mbappé. Robinho scored 32 goals in 1 season at 19. Balotelli was touted as a potential future Balon D'Or winner as a teen.He's better than both Messi and Cris age by age, that's for sure, and I don't know any other way to judge a talent.
You can't be serious. Both were well-known flops before being transferred here. City had no chance to even remotely touch a talent like Mbappe back then.
B. They were definitely not complete flops when they joined City. Robinho has stagnated slightly but was one of Madrid's very brightest talents 1/2 years before. Balotelli was still extremely highly rated but was moved on because of his attitude problems, which also got in the way of his potential.
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He's better than both Messi and Cris age by age, that's for sure, and I don't know any other way to judge a talent.
I don't know how you can say that? "Scored more goals" is hardly a perfect way of assessing talent.
To be honest, from what I've seen of him - which admittedly is not much - I don't know what all the hype is about. He looks good yes, but he's only had one decent season and most of his opponents have been meh. Personally I haven't seen anything spectacular from him that might tell me he's the next Messi or Ronaldo. Maybe I've just missed it?
So yes, worth signing as he is young and shows great promise, but their valuation is bonkers and would be a ludicrous risk I am sure we would not take. If we can get him for say £80m plus add-ons then maybe.
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He's better than both Messi and Cris age by age
Not a chance he's better than Messi was at the same age and I say that as a huge Mbappe fan who thinks we should pay whatever it takes to get him. Hard to argue that he's far more impactful than Chris Ronald was though.
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Anyone read Sam Lee's article today?
Seems to imply the signing of Evans means we are still in for both Mbappe and Sanchez, that both as in one or other or both as in still would sign both if available.
Seems to imply the signing of Evans means we are still in for both Mbappe and Sanchez, that both as in one or other or both as in still would sign both if available.
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He's better than both Messi and Cris age by age, that's for sure, and I don't know any other way to judge a talent.
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It's Ronnie or CR7 or nothing.Cris?
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I don't know how you can say that? "Scored more goals" is hardly a perfect way of assessing talent.
To be honest, from what I've seen of him - which admittedly is not much - I don't know what all the hype is about. He looks good yes, but he's only had one decent season and most of his opponents have been meh. Personally I haven't seen anything spectacular from him that might tell me he's the next Messi or Ronaldo. Maybe I've just missed it?
So yes, worth signing as he is young and shows great promise, but their valuation is bonkers and would be a ludicrous risk I am sure we would not take. If we can get him for say £80m plus add-ons then maybe.
He seems to be more like a Ronaldo (athletic, does everything very well) rather than a Messi (capable of jaw dropping moments of skill).
Speed of feet and movement. Reminds me of the real Ronaldo, but he's not got the goalscoring yet.
I am basing this on a handful of games. I was not convinced until I saw him against England where he did it again. The argument that he shines in a weak league is fair. But he has also done it in the Champions League against the best.
His performance against us is probably not the best benchmark because we were a very easy team to attack and our full backs last season were terrible.
I am basing this on a handful of games. I was not convinced until I saw him against England where he did it again. The argument that he shines in a weak league is fair. But he has also done it in the Champions League against the best.
His performance against us is probably not the best benchmark because we were a very easy team to attack and our full backs last season were terrible.
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The analogy is obvious, but I don't agree with your assessment. Mbappe doesn't have Ronaldo's bullish power, his ball-control is considerably worse (KM's dribbling is more Henry-style - kick and run), but he's better at chance convertion than pre-injury R9, who was quite a wasteful forward and developed really good and clinical shot only during post-injury career. Ofc R9 created opportunities in adundance so had phenomenal stats, but that's a different matter, I'm talking about finishing skills. Besides, Mbappe looks quite dangerous in the box, where Ronaldo was average at best.Speed of feet and movement. Reminds me of the real Ronaldo, but he's not got the goalscoring yet.
I am basing this on a handful of games. I was not convinced until I saw him against England where he did it again. The argument that he shines in a weak league is fair. But he has also done it in the Champions League against the best.
His performance against us is probably not the best benchmark because we were a very easy team to attack and our full backs last season were terrible.
The most striking thing about Mbappe for me is his intelligence, he's more mature and tactically astute than Messi, R9 were until 20-21. It's not difficult to rewatch their games and check it out.
It was the speed of the footwork that struck me. It's almost as if he has a different nervous system.The analogy is obvious, but I don't agree with your assessment. Mbappe doesn't have Ronaldo's bullish power, his ball-control is considerably worse (KM's dribbling is more Henry-style - kick and run), but he's better at chance convertion than pre-injury R9, who was quite a wasteful forward and developed really good and clinical shot only during post-injury career. Ofc R9 created opportunities in adundance so had phenomenal stats, but that's a different matter, I'm talking about finishing skills. Besides, Mbappe looks quite dangerous in the box, where Ronaldo was average at best.
The most striking thing about Mbappe for me is his intelligence, he's more mature and tactically astute than Messi, R9 were until 20-21. It's not difficult to rewatch their games and check it out.
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Spot on, insect-like reactions.It was the speed of the footwork that struck me. It's almost as if he has a different nervous system.
J_MCFC21
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Think with Mbappe he's one of those players you know is going to do something when he gets the ball. Like almost exciting wondering what he's gonna do, not sure we have a player like that (maybe Jesus)
His goals per game was far better pre injury than post. He was pretty much 1:1 before he got injured, after that it took a significant dip.The analogy is obvious, but I don't agree with your assessment. Mbappe doesn't have Ronaldo's bullish power, his ball-control is considerably worse (KM's dribbling is more Henry-style - kick and run), but he's better at chance convertion than pre-injury R9, who was quite a wasteful forward and developed really good and clinical shot only during post-injury career. Ofc R9 created opportunities in adundance so had phenomenal stats, but that's a different matter, I'm talking about finishing skills. Besides, Mbappe looks quite dangerous in the box, where Ronaldo was average at best.
The most striking thing about Mbappe for me is his intelligence, he's more mature and tactically astute than Messi, R9 were until 20-21. It's not difficult to rewatch their games and check it out.
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Do you think we will prioritise trying to sign MBappe over Sanchez :)Speed of feet and movement. Reminds me of the real Ronaldo, but he's not got the goalscoring yet.
I am basing this on a handful of games. I was not convinced until I saw him against England where he did it again. The argument that he shines in a weak league is fair. But he has also done it in the Champions League against the best.
His performance against us is probably not the best benchmark because we were a very easy team to attack and our full backs last season were terrible.
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Mendy has already reached cult status before playing a game for City. Imagine if he is a main reason Mbappe comes...
He'd become demi-god before stepping on a pitch for City :)
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