It's Quiet - a new dawn

Status
Not open for further replies.
With Nasri off another of our title winners is gone. Done to 4 now Kompany, Silva, Aguero and Yaya. Joe might still be on the books but he'll never play for us again.
 
grim up north said:
How was it clearly earmarked
Click to expand...
well if we were truely in for mbapoe that neans that the budget must have allowed for at least spending another 100m easily....we aint getting him now by the looks of things so that money could be put to use by purchasing a much better centre half
 
simon23 said:
so sanchez and evans are now are only 2 targets.

what i dont understand is that we had clearly earmarked 100m plus to go for mbappe...so if we aint going for him/have backed out due to excessive wage demands, why dont we put that money towards buying an actual decent cenrre half instead of scrapping the botton of the barrel for Evans?
Click to expand...

Because we were willing to go to the absolute limit to get Mbappe now, that doesn't mean that we have 160 million or whatever to spend elsewhere.

We would have done it for that once in a generation chance, but it would have been a risk insofar as even with amortisation it would probably have limited our ability to spend in future years, or something along those lines.

Basically its like finding out there's an Aston for sale for £5000 down the road. You might throw your whole savings at it because its a once in a lifetime shot and even if the missus is pissed it would be worth it, but if you miss out on it you're not just going to spend that money on two polos and rover 75 just because you were thinking of spending the money anyway.
 
shak said:
Because we were willing to go to the absolute limit to get Mbappe now, that doesn't mean that we have 160 million or whatever to spend elsewhere.

We would have done it for that once in a generation chance, but it would have been a risk insofar as even with amortisation it would probably have limited our ability to spend in future years, or something along those lines.

Basically its like finding out there's an Aston for sale for £5000 down the road. You might throw your whole savings at it because its a once in a lifetime shot and even if the missus is pissed it would be worth it, but if you miss out on it you're not just going to spend that money on two polos and rover 75 just because you were thinking of spending the money anyway.
Click to expand...
it does mean thst we could use a portion of it to get someone better as opposed to getting a stip gap player with no re-sale value(thats what evans is) and then having to spend nore money in 12-18 months on a new centre half when yoy realise that you need simwine a hell of a whole lot better!
 
simon23 said:
well if we were truely in for mbapoe that neans that the budget must have allowed for at least spending another 100m easily....we aint getting him now by the looks of things so that money could be put to use by purchasing a much better centre half
Click to expand...
Not sure it works like that. It's not compulsory we spend all the budget.

As for Evans, he is likely a stop gap to someone we may have identified who isn't avail this window
 
Don't expect any finalised incoming transfer news before tonight's match finished.

Focus on match then see what we can do to improve squad.
 
Despite City being very organised this summer we are still likely to see a fair bit of coming and going in the last ten days of the window. We need to sign a new centre back (probably Evans) and a new forward (only likely to be Sanchez). Then new homes have to be found for Delph, Mangala and Bony plus loan moves are likely for Roberts, Adarabioyo and Zinchenko with some more City kids likely to be loaned out (the likes of Bryan and Nemane).
 
simon23 said:
it does mean thst we could use a portion of it to get someone better as opposed to getting a stip gap player with no re-sale value(thats what evans is) and then having to spend nore money in 12-18 months on a new centre half when yoy realise that you need simwine a hell of a whole lot better!
Click to expand...

Yeah I agree, I would spend that money on VVD and Sanchez and be done with it, but I don't know all the intricacies of our financial situation etc.

I don't think Evans would be a stop gap anyway, if Pep wants him its because he thinks he can do a job and that won't just be for one season. Regardless I think we're out of the woods on that signing, if we bid we did so because we thought he would be value for money at 18, he obviously wouldn't be for 30 so I hope we are moving on.
 
Dani Alves and Kolarov changed our plans a lot.

Him moving to PSG has cost us in many ways

Price for both Walker & Mendy went up

We backed away from Bertrand who I would have loved as cover for LB, instead we went for Danilo and have only 3 FBs now.

Kolarov moving made us look for his replacement as 4th choice CB.

Yes we might have had a budget but the above had an effect on it.

If we do still get Sanchez and Evans or another CB we have still had a great window and I'm happy.
 
mosssideblue said:
Not sure it works like that. It's not compulsory we spend all the budget.

As for Evans, he is likely a stop gap to someone we may have identified who isn't avail this window
Click to expand...
i agree on the stop gap bit...we wouldnt even have to spend half of yhe mbappe money to get someone better
 
i
mosssideblue said:
Like who, and who would want to come?
Click to expand...
dont know but i dont have a world wide scouting network at my fingertips nor 10 yrs in the game as a manager with the contacts you amass with that...if i did im sure i could find a centre hald better than Evans....he doesnt even suit the high line we play as he aint particularly mobile. i get he is good on the ball but he will be exposed in our system with no midfield cover in front of him....pep said in his last press cinferancd about the reason why he puts Kompany wider and has stones playing centrally...because that is where the one on ones happen....imagine evans vs premiership fowards one on one 30 -40 yds or more from our goal .he will get ripped to shreads on the break which is the way the vast majority of teams will.play against us
 
simon23 said:
i

dont know but i dont have a world wide scouting network at my fingertips nor 10 yrs in the game as a manager with the contacts you amass with that...if i did im sure i could find a centre hald better than Evans....he doesnt even suit the high line we play as he aint particularly mobile. i get he is good on the ball but he will be exposed in our system with no midfield cover in front of him....pep said in his last press cinferancd about the reason why he puts Kompany wider and has stones playing centrally...because that is where the one on ones happen....imagine evans vs premiership fowards one on one 30 -40 yds or more from our goal .he will get ripped to shreads on the break which is the way the vast majority of teams will.play against us
Click to expand...
Mate, I dont want him either, but I am convinced they have not simply thrown a dart at the board and it landed on him
 
mosssideblue said:
Mate, I dont want him either, but I am convinced they have not simply thrown a dart at the board and it landed on him
Click to expand...
Exactly, and if our transfer staff took that approach, I'm sure Evans wouldn't have even been on that dart board to begin with. It seems apparent to me that he is the stop gap for a season or 2 to give Stones time to grow into his role and spare time for suitable CB targets to become available. I'm not that familiar with him, but if he's the anchor for a West Brom defense that doesn't concede all that much, he has to have some sort of quality at the back (although that may be a result of the system/strategy Pulis uses rather than Evans's quality). My only issue with going after him for the price quoted is the difficulty it will be to sell him for at least that price when we find no further need for him.
 
mosssideblue said:
I can accept the age and his ability, but being an ex rag is irrelevant and the money is currently hearsay. Do I want him, no but I would concede he may improve us
Click to expand...
Get what your saying mate. But if he signs, which neither of us want, and has a nightmare start will see if being an ex rag is irrelevant.
I see nothing to indicate any upgrade on the Otter or Mangler, infact I would rather have kept Kolarov as a back up cb. But I am a weird un :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top