Neville Kneville
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And her teeth are very sharp.
Well then we have either fucked up, & bought the wrong players, or we are not getting the best out of them.
We're not getting the best out of our wide players on a consistent basis, yet, I'm still confident that we will in time given their potential.
Jesus has also shown a lot of promise but still hasn't done it consistently to the point that you could rely on him.
DeBruyne is capable but didn't do it last season for some reason, wouldn't call him the wrong player, would you?
Chippy_boy
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We have more goalscorers than most.
We paid 50 mil each for two kids (Sterling & Sane) who are both supposed to score goals, plus another fortune for KDB, who is supposed to score goals (Pep has mentioned it).
Both Silvas are also supposed to chip in with a decent total.
If Aguero, Jesus, Sane, Sterling & DeBruyne are not scoring goals, rather than looking to buy more of them & hoping that solves it, the manager should first of all try to figure out why.
I'm pretty fucking sure they'd have no problem scoring v us.
Spot on.
Personally, I am not bothered whether we sign Sanchez or not. We probably need a 3rd striker since trying to compete in all the comps all season with only 2 is too risky. But I don't mind who. I would have kept Kelechi myself. At a push even Bony as a stand in.
But I am not remotely concerned our existing personnel's ability. Yes, we are struggling to break down teams that park the bus. Sanchez - if he arrives - will struggle exactly the same. He is not "the solution".
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I hear he's already put a deposit down on Nolito's cave.
Sounds like a game from War Games.
Neville Kneville
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We're not getting the best out of our wide players on a consistent basis, yet, I'm still confident that we will in time given their potential.
Jesus has also shown a lot of promise but still hasn't done it consistently to the point that you could rely on him.
DeBruyne is capable but didn't do it last season for some reason, wouldn't call him the wrong player, would you?
I wouldn't call any of them the 'wrong player'.
Imo we have had the best squad for years & we keep getting excuses that the manager needs this & that in order to compete.
Imo it's bollocks. The excise for Pellegrini was he needed centre mids because there are huge holes there. Pep has used more or less the same players & centre midfield is like Heathrow airport there are so many players. But now the strikers & attacking mids can't hit a bull's arse with a banjo.
The answer in both cases, is seen as 'buy buy buy'.
The answer ought to be, that the manager(s) should fucking 'manage'.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Showing your age there, pal ;-)Sounds like a game from War Games.
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Spot on.
Personally, I am not bothered whether we sign Sanchez or not. We probably need a 3rd striker since trying to compete in all the comps all season with only 2 is too risky. But I don't mind who. I would have kept Kelechi myself. At a push even Bony as a stand in.
But I am not remotely concerned our existing personnel's ability. Yes, we are struggling to break down teams that park the bus. Sanchez - if he arrives - will struggle exactly the same. He is not "the solution".
The solution to packed defences is to inject pace into a movement. We had little problem with packed defences in 2012 - or was that the season where teams didn't realise how potent an attacking force we were and just reeled under the barrage, and 2013 was the season the Etihad became a car park for away teams?
Neville Kneville
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Spot on.
Personally, I am not bothered whether we sign Sanchez or not. We probably need a 3rd striker since trying to compete in all the comps all season with only 2 is too risky. But I don't mind who. I would have kept Kelechi myself. At a push even Bony as a stand in.
But I am not remotely concerned our existing personnel's ability. Yes, we are struggling to break down teams that park the bus. Sanchez - if he arrives - will struggle exactly the same. He is not "the solution".
Sanchez makes Pep's job easier. If Pep is any good, he should still be thereabouts without him. It shouldn't even be a reason for mild concern, let alone worry.
If Pep can't compete with an attacking array like that, he should fuck off & hand the job to someone who can. There will be plenty.
I don't think Pep will feel we are seriously lacking if we don't get him, just that we could be a bit better, with him.
I wouldn't call any of them the 'wrong player'.
Imo we have had the best squad for years & we keep getting excuses that the manager needs this & that in order to compete.
Imo it's bollocks. The excise for Pellegrini was he needed centre mids because there are huge holes there. Pep has used more or less the same players & centre midfield is like Heathrow airport there are so many players. But now the strikers & attacking mids can't hit a bull's arse with a banjo.
The answer in both cases, is seen as 'buy buy buy'.
The answer ought to be, that the manager(s) should fucking 'manage'.
I can see where you're coming from but when you have chances like
Aguero dithering instead of passing into the net
Silva hitting the post with the goal at his mercy
Jesus passing the ball back to Pickford with an unopposed volley from 6/7 yards
Sterling blazing over in an great position
then what the fuck are you meant to save for going onto the pitch and putting the ball in the fucking net yourself.
I agree with the gist of this Nev, though I'm still concerned that any time out for Aguero this season leaves us very thin on the ground forward wise. I'm not talking attacking players because as you rightly point out we've got them coming out of our ears, I mean strikers.I wouldn't call any of them the 'wrong player'.
Imo we have had the best squad for years & we keep getting excuses that the manager needs this & that in order to compete.
Imo it's bollocks. The excise for Pellegrini was he needed centre mids because there are huge holes there. Pep has used more or less the same players & centre midfield is like Heathrow airport there are so many players. But now the strikers & attacking mids can't hit a bull's arse with a banjo.
The answer in both cases, is seen as 'buy buy buy'.
The answer ought to be, that the manager(s) should fucking 'manage'.
One way or another Pep is going to have to earn his dough this season.
I wouldn't call any of them the 'wrong player'.
Imo we have had the best squad for years & we keep getting excuses that the manager needs this & that in order to compete.
Imo it's bollocks. The excise for Pellegrini was he needed centre mids because there are huge holes there. Pep has used more or less the same players & centre midfield is like Heathrow airport there are so many players. But now the strikers & attacking mids can't hit a bull's arse with a banjo.
The answer in both cases, is seen as 'buy buy buy'.
The answer ought to be, that the manager(s) should fucking 'manage'.
our squad until this summer was mid table one beyond first 11. Nothing to be proud of considering we were spending lot of money but it was nowhere the best one for years. Since dzeko and tevez went we hacen't had a game changer player on the bench, we relied on introducing navas when we were down a goal.
however, it is the best squad now so no excuses now.
Chippy_boy
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Sanchez makes Pep's job easier. If Pep is any good, he should still be thereabouts without him. It shouldn't even be a reason for mild concern, let alone worry.
If Pep can't compete with an attacking array like that, he should fuck off & hand the job to someone who can. There will be plenty.
I don't think Pep will feel we are seriously lacking if we don't get him, just that we could be a bit better, with him.
Again, I agree. Sanchez is of course quality and with him in the squad we are even better equipped than we are already. Would he improve us? Yes. Do we need him? No.
Neville Kneville
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I can see where you're coming from but when you have chances like
Aguero dithering instead of passing into the net
Silva hitting the post with the goal at his mercy
Jesus passing the ball back to Pickford with an unopposed volley from 6/7 yards
Sterling blazing over in an great position
then what the fuck are you meant to save for going onto the pitch and putting the ball in the fucking net yourself.
In Aguero & Jesus's case, you try to figure out why two great finshers can't finish, & solve it.
When great players can't score goals, the answer is not to sign another one & 'hope' he does it instead, he might have he same problem, what then ? Resign ?
Manage them. Fix it.
That's actually what managers used to do.
Again, I agree. Sanchez is of course quality and with him in the squad we are even better equipped than we are already. Would he improve us? Yes. Do we need him? No.
I'd argue that you need to reinvigorate your attack every year, otherwise you either get complacent or you get worked out.
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apparently wenger said - "he is focused, training very hard and thinking only about arsenal. when he is in such mode, he's hard to stop"
If we were all honest in what we say to our gaffers we'd all be still at our first jobs.
Puts to bed any talk that we haven't even bid yet doesn't it.
That's what I thought, although the only reply to that tweet is disputing that Wenger actually said that:
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I wouldn't call any of them the 'wrong player'.
Imo we have had the best squad for years & we keep getting excuses that the manager needs this & that in order to compete.
Imo it's bollocks. The excise for Pellegrini was he needed centre mids because there are huge holes there. Pep has used more or less the same players & centre midfield is like Heathrow airport there are so many players. But now the strikers & attacking mids can't hit a bull's arse with a banjo.
The answer in both cases, is seen as 'buy buy buy'.
The answer ought to be, that the manager(s) should fucking 'manage'.
Completely agree.
Sanchez is a great player, but if Pep can't get this squad playing good football and challenging for honours, then that will be his fault.
The sign of a great manager is getting the best out of players and improving them, not deciding talented players aren't good enough and buying yet more players.
Having said that, I still have faith that Pep will get the best out of them.
In Aguero & Jesus's case, you try to figure out why two great finshers can't finish, & solve it.
When great players can't score goals, the answer is not to sign another one & 'hope' he does it instead, he might have he same problem, what then ? Resign ?
Manage them. Fix it.
That's actually what managers used to do.
Look at the list of chances from one game, they are not half chances, they are all great chances to score, all the manager can do is come up with a plan to enable us to create good chances to score, he's done that, he can't score the goals for them.
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