I'm not sure the shotgun shell will worry them too much if they come in with an assault rifle. Maybe you need a proper gun emplacement at the top of the stairs with sandbags around it.There is nothing a burglar hates more than the sound of a shotgun shell/gun round being chambered! Unfortunately, any burglar who gets into my house won't even hear that, as it is already in there. He will hear one thing..."I am armed and I will kill you! Leave now!" If that doesn't do the trick, then I can't fix stupid, but I can fix dangerous to me and my family.
There is nothing a burglar hates more than the sound of a shotgun shell/gun round being chambered! Unfortunately, any burglar who gets into my house won't even hear that, as it is already in there.
I'm pretty sure you won't lose control of your car and plough down dozens of pedestrians, but you could! All it would take is a brake failure on a steep SF street and you're there! Lose your brakes in the Stockton tunnel and Union Square has a massacre on its hands!
I'm telling you that I have a gun for home defence and you are acting like I'm some kind of gun nutter?! Your SF fog is showing!
Hey man, if you think you can effect the repeal of 2A, knock yourself out! You are arguing about a world that doesn't exist. I LIVE in the real world, where the guy I walk past in the street may be carrying a gun! How's the sunset in the Middle East tonight?And the point the poster was making is that ‘bad shoot’ wouldn’t have happened if no one had guns. We have wankers in our police force as well, the worst they can do is give people a kicking or tazer them. The poster I agreed with is bang on with reference to the fact that all the training in the world doesn’t stop mistakes happening. The problem is a mistake with a gun can rarely be rectified after the fact. It’s pretty final.
I'm with you, man! Problem is the bad guys already have them, have ready access to them, and for a baggie can get more! I'm just trying to protect myself from the nutters, which creates a conundrum. I get it. Problem is, every responsible citizen will tell you that as soon as you can get them out of the hands of bad guys, and actually enforce the gun laws already on the books, you can have mine. Until then, I'd be a sucker to give up my legal weapon.Not the same. Cars have a demonstrable private and public benefit. Periodic accidents and societal risks can be balanced with the good they do. Guns are designed quite specifically to hurt, maim, injure and kill their targets. They have NO other purpose. Chainsaw, axes, knives, other things than can be used as weapons have alternative uses and are designed to other things. Guns aren't.
I do not for a second believe you are any kind of nutter -- and I especially respect and am even jealous of airline pilots. But guns should be THE most highly-regulated and controlled goods purchase anyone can make. I am not arguing for banning them. But any gun owner who doesn't agree that they should be subject to a massively higher level of control cares less about the safety of fellow human beings than I do.
see PM.Where as I’ve already posted the stats that 0.01% of people that own guns for protection ever get burgled where as the other other 99.9% are 4 times as likely to injure themselves or someone else with their gun than actually defend themselves.
Just say it, you like guns. You like their power. You don’t want to lose them. No one is gonna argue against that point as it’s your real opinion. The self defence argument is, for 99.9% of people, not valid.
I'm with you, man! Problem is the bad guys already have them, have ready access to them, and for a baggie can get more! I'm just trying to protect myself from the nutters, which creates a conundrum. I get it. Problem is, every responsible citizen will tell you that as soon as you can get them out of the hands of bad guys, and actually enforce the gun laws already on the books, you can have mine. Until then, I'd be a sucker to give up my legal weapon.
Dog, meet tail. Run!
I can live with that. As with my job, I rely on training to protect myself from negative outcomes.I'd say you are a sucker to have opened yourself up to a level of potential fatal accident risk because of fear of an even more unlikely event of home invasion.
You are wrong. I'll leave it at that.Ah the dreaded home invasion. Locks and decent alarm systems usually seem to be doing a better job at keeping burglars at bay though.
Also, most burglaries seem to take place between 10 am and 3pm, so you're likely not even home to shoot anyone.
Of course it does. I wouldn't have, or need, a gun in Manchester. However, if I lived out in the country, you can bet your ass I'd have a shotgun, no matter where I lived.Was curious if this would come up. And whether the US psyche associates guns with freedom in a way that British folk might not understand. In this way British
people trying to tell americans what to do with guns could, I imagine, easily be perceived as an attempt to take away freedom (even if not consciously) 200 years after independence.
You are wrong. I'll leave it at that.
I can't help you, because you refuse to understand, or incapable of doing so....and I'm not saying it is necessarily your fault. Move to America, I'll pick a place for you to live, then let me know if you want a handgun! ;-)I look forward to it. I'd just shout take what you want I'm insured for plenty.
Just an observation about the fear level. Reinforced by American shows like Mahers whose show examines how the right wing media try to terrify people. Everything's a threat.
Peoples fear of Islamic terrorism
Is off the charts. We aren't in the same league regarding people fearing an islamic attack and we are much more likely to have one.
A lot of people believe this hyped up shit and are actually in fear, where no real threat exists, then to solve that they buy a gun, but are still scared, so they buy another, but still edgy, they buy an assault rifle.
Where does it end. When will they realise it's designed to make them scared to sell them guns and to have a big military.
Easily scared. I stand by that.( not everyone obviously but enough)
Oh ok, so statistics are wrong now? Check the safewise report if you don't want to take my word for it.
Didn't say that.
Yep. That must be it. Male overcompensation is what kicked the British out of America! Rewrite the history books and rewrite the Constitution, we have a breakthrough!I'm not sure the shotgun shell will worry them too much if they come in with an assault rifle. Maybe you need a proper gun emplacement at the top of the stairs with sandbags around it.
Honestly, this whole America gun thing is nothing more than male overcompensation.
Why do you believe I'm not home from 10-3 most days. Why on earth do you think you know my life, even after I tell you you're wrong?I'm just wrong for stating what the statistics point out?
You said: Also, most burglaries seem to take place between 10 am and 3pm, so you're likely not even home to shoot anyone.
I said: You are wrong....on at least one of your assertions!
Because you simply stated I was wrong without deeming it necessary to elaborate.Why do you believe I'm not home from 10-3 most days. Why on earth do you think you know my life, even after I tell you you're wrong?
Why do I need to elaborate when you make assertions about things about which you have absolutely no knowledge! You asserted something you couldn't know and I told you you were wrong. I don't need to explain, you need to not make assertions about things about which you know nothing!Because you simply stated I was wrong without deeming it necessary to elaborate.