The final part of my post about sticking the families next to the away fans was very much tong in cheek, but I am amused that some on here seem to think that’s a good idea , obviously they don’t have children of there own.
There is actually quite a large number of family stand season ticket holders and I’m sure the club would have relocated or reduce the Fs should there not be the demand, yes there are empty seats in this area, a lot of thease are club and community tickets that don’t get used. And Night time games are a problem.
I’d have no doubt a safe standing lower tier would sell out, cheeper tickets for one but where are thease thousands of mythical singers coming from ..
Is it not practically standing now in the south and corner, so won’t it be just relocation of the same people to the north Stand ( you would probably lose a good few of the vocal ones who would prefer to stay next to the away fans) shouldn’t you try maybe filling out the bottom tier southstand with singers before you go slinging families out of there seats . And have the 1894 group already tried this with no real evidence of filling a tier let alone a stand with singers.
Any move to standing, if done correctly, would require some renovations (one of the reasons the club likely doesn’t want to do it) and safety measures could be put in place similar to other sections in stadiums around the continent that would allow for SS3 to be perfectly safe for standing.Not a chance of there ever being safe standing in SS3, its too steep, and H&S would never allow it. SS2 will also go corporate when the NS is extended, so that won't be happening either.
@Prophet of Doom - An observation about acoustics, I normally sit in 315 (where the amazing Burnley and Bristol C fans have been located), and whilst the atmosphere varies, when its good, its good, and the proximity of the roof is the reason why, and from there we rarely hear the SS1 singers.
Against Burnley I was moved down into SS1, in the SW corner, and whilst I could hear the singing section, and see they were singing, even that close, the noise generated by them is not loud (no roof above), and they were completely drowned out by the away fans above.
Out of the box.......
Perhaps club could pay a number to sing ?
At our wedding few year ago we got a friends proper choir to come and sing in church. Other than that you end up with just Vicar and a few mumbling uncomfortable drunks singing, mouthing or whatever. But cos we had a dozen enthusiastic amateurs ( we covered their expenses.) giving it gusto the rest of congregation were comfortable giving it a go. Safety in numbers an all. The outcome plumbers , joiners and a few big lads , lads along with rest were carried along and hymns and shit were sung with real gusto and relaxed , 'fun' enjoyable ease.
Even as the guy going to the gallows that day it was a real enjoyable highlight for me . Still remember now.......just don't tell her indoors.
So maybe not that out of the box. If you have a leak you call a plumber ? We want singers then what about flyers to community choir s. You only need a dozen with a song sheet to light the fuse ...... Only a few year ago it was the vogue for all these flash mob dance groups etc. The idea isn't that silly.
There is no way that H&S will sanction safe/rail standing in level SS3 imho, its too steep, and to high, plus it is used (as this week) by the away supporters for cup games, and the police won't move the away fans. In the PL, it hasn't been sanctioned anywhere yet, but it will only ever be small sections at low levels imho, even if it is ever sanctioned.Any move to standing, if done correctly, would require some renovations (one of the reasons the club likely doesn’t want to do it) and safety measures could be put in place similar to other sections in stadiums around the continent that would allow for SS3 to be perfectly safe for standing.
As far as SS2 going corporate, I wasn’t aware that was planned. Is that confirmed (as in shown in one of the phases of the expansion/development plan released by the club) or is that just what you think would happen (which, having been away for a few years, I would still trust your predictions more than mine—just trying to get a sense of the confidence in that change).
I was on about singing.......not a drummer or trumpeter......this is about the singing section right ? Why would we all suspect a pissed up 40 something would do it better than those who are their just to sing......you was obviously never near the club band at youth games in the CFA... they took enjoyment from being paid for people to shout shut the fuck up to them
I was on about singing.......not a drummer or trumpeter......this is about the singing section right ? Why would we all suspect a pissed up 40 something would do it better than those who are their just to sing......
Like I said you have a leak you call a plumber NOT a florist.
As many flags as you like won't improve singing.
I actually don't sing . And I would expect pro s on half a mill a month to do the job on the pitch any Ho.
Dortmund and Celtic are not the best in the world regardless of atmosphere so all rather irrelevant
City do community work so why not get involved with a choir locally . Will it make it worse or could it possibly make it 1% better........
Out of the box.......
Perhaps club could pay a number to sing ?
At our wedding few year ago we got a friends proper choir to come and sing in church. Other than that you end up with just Vicar and a few mumbling uncomfortable drunks singing, mouthing or whatever. But cos we had a dozen enthusiastic amateurs ( we covered their expenses.) giving it gusto the rest of congregation were comfortable giving it a go. Safety in numbers an all. The outcome plumbers , joiners and a few big lads , lads along with rest were carried along and hymns and shit were sung with real gusto and relaxed , 'fun' enjoyable ease.
Even as the guy going to the gallows that day it was a real enjoyable highlight for me . Still remember now.......just don't tell her indoors.
So maybe not that out of the box. If you have a leak you call a plumber ? We want singers then what about flyers to community choir s. You only need a dozen with a song sheet to light the fuse ...... Only a few year ago it was the vogue for all these flash mob dance groups etc. The idea isn't that silly.